[000:00:15;147] TONIGHT --
[000:00:15;548] >> YOU HAVE BEEN DESCRIBED AS A
[000:00:19;051] BIMBO, A STALKER, A SEDUCTRESS.
[000:00:22;354] >> Announcer: BARBARA WALTERS
[000:00:24;991] WITH MONICA LEWINSKY, A WOMAN
[000:00:26;526] GUARANTEED A PLACE IN HISTORY
[000:00:29;261] FINALLY FREE TO TELL HER OWN
[000:00:30;863] STORY OF THE AFFAIR THAT NEARLY
[000:00:32;998] TOPPLED THE PRESIDENT.
[000:00:33;698] >> SOMETIMES I HAVE WARM
[000:00:36;368] FEELINGS.
[000:00:36;768] SOMETIMES I'M PROUD OF HIM
[000:00:37;469] STILL.
[000:00:38;003] SOMETIMES I HATE HIS GUTS.
[000:00:40;072] >> Announcer: YOU'LL HEAR HOW IT
[000:00:41;673] ALL BEGAN AND WHERE IT LED.
[000:00:42;707] >> I DID HAVE A RELATIONSHIP
[000:00:44;676] WITH MS. LEWINSKY THAT WAS NOT
[000:00:45;911] APPROPRIATE.
[000:00:47;479] >> I FELT LIKE A PIECE OF TRASH.
[000:00:50;749] I FELT -- I FELT DIRTY.
[000:00:55;154] >> Announcer: ABOUT THE MOMENTS
[000:00:57;089] SHE CHERISHES STILL.
[000:00:58;190] >> HE WAS VERY TENDER WITH ME.
[000:01:02;761] HE WAS VERY AFFECTIONATE.
[000:01:03;695] >> Announcer: AND THE TIMES SHE
[000:01:05;397] WOULD RATHER FORGET.
[000:01:06;298] >> YOU WOULD SCREAM AT HIM IN
[000:01:07;732] PERSON.
[000:01:08;100] YOU WOULD THREATEN HIM.
[000:01:08;800] THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
[000:01:09;501] STATES.
[000:01:10;669] >> Announcer: THEN HER FEELINGS
[000:01:12;337] ABOUT BETTY CURRIE, VERNON
[000:01:14;906] JORDAN, KENNETH STARR AND LINDA
[000:01:18;476] TRIPP.
[000:01:19;810] >> LINDA TRIPP SAID SHE'D LIKE
[000:01:21;512] TO GIVE YOU A HUG.
[000:01:22;746] WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO GIVE
[000:01:24;315] LINDA TRIPP?
[000:01:25;083] >> Announcer: WHY DID MONICA
[000:01:27;218] CONFIDE IN LINDA TRIPP AND LATER
[000:01:28;852] TRY TO PROTECT THE PRESIDENT?
[000:01:30;188] >> I HAD HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH
[000:01:32;156] A MARRIEDMAN BEFORE, AND I KNEW
[000:01:34;992] THE RULES.
[000:01:35;960] >> Announcer: YOU'LL UNDERSTAND
[000:01:37;027] THE PRESIDENT AS YOU MAY NEVER
[000:01:39;130] HAVE BEFORE.
[000:01:39;697] AND THE WOMAN DESPERATE TO LOVE
[000:01:41;499] HIM.
[000:01:42;500] >> WHERE WAS YOUR SELF-RESPECT?
[000:01:44;668] WHERE WAS YOUR SELF-ESTEEM?
[000:01:46;504] >> Announcer: PLUS, THE SECRET
[000:01:48;306] SHE HAS NEVER REVEALED.
[000:01:50;074] AND QUESTIONS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN
[000:01:51;809] ANSWEREDNTIL NOW.
[000:01:53;478] >> DID YOU FEEL THAT YOU WERE IN
[000:01:55;378] COMPETITION WITH HILLARY
[000:01:56;013] CLINTON?
[000:01:56;614] >> Announcer: TONIGHT, THE
[000:01:58;048] PRIVATE AFFAIR, THE NATIONAL
[000:02:00;283] SCANDAL, THE PUBLIC FALLOUT.
[000:02:03;253] MONICA LEWINSKY DESCRIBES IT ALL
[000:02:05;055] IN HER OWN WORDS.
[000:02:08;258] THIS TWO-HOUR PRESENTATION,
[000:02:10;327] MARCH 3, 1999.
[000:02:12;529] AND NOW, BARBARA WALTERS.
[000:02:13;831] >> GOOD EVENING.
[000:02:15;766] FOR THE PAST YEAR, MONICA
[000:02:17;868] LEWINSKY HAS BEEN FORCED TO
[000:02:20;504] REVEAL ASPECTS OF HER
[000:02:21;371] RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PRESIDENT
[000:02:22;139] OF THE UNITED STATES.
[000:02:24;074] TONIGHT, FOR THE FIRST TIME, SHE
[000:02:25;509] HAS CHOSEN TO TELL HER STORY
[000:02:27;811] FROM THE PRIVATE FLIRTATION WITH
[000:02:29;647] PRESIDENT CLINTON TO THE PUBLIC
[000:02:31;649] NIGHTMARE OF THE AFTERMATH.
[000:02:34;484] MS. LEWINSKY, WHO HAD JUST
[000:02:35;752] TURNED 22 WHEN SHE FIRST MET
[000:02:37;687] BILL CLINTON, IS NOW 25.
[000:02:40;923] SHE HAS DONE THIS INTERVIEW WITH
[000:02:41;924] NO PAYMENT OF ANY KIND.
[000:02:42;692] AND WE COULD ASK HER WHATEVER WE
[000:02:44;561] WANTED.
[000:02:44;927] THERE ARE, HOWEVER, SOME
[000:02:46;763] RESTRICTIONS STILL IMPOSED ON
[000:02:47;997] HER BY THE OFFICE OF THE
[000:02:49;399] INDEPENDENT COUNSEL HEADED BY
[000:02:51;635] KENNETH STARR.
[000:02:53;336] ONLY ONE OF THEM AFFECTED THIS
[000:02:54;937] INTERVIEW.
[000:02:55;905] MS. LEWINSKY IS UNABLE TO
[000:02:57;073] COMMENT ON THE CONDUCT OF THE
[000:02:58;941] PROSECUTORS OR THEIR
[000:03:01;044] INVESTIGATION INCLUDING THE
[000:03:02;179] TRAUMATIC DAY THAT SHE HERSELF
[000:03:04;113] WAS FIRST INTERROGATED.
[000:03:06;082] BUT I AM FREE TO REPORT ON THE
[000:03:07;817] EVENTS OF THAT DAY.
[000:03:09;919] SO HERE NOW WE BRING YOU MONICA
[000:03:12;121] IN HER OWN WORDS.
[000:03:16;225] MONICA, BEEN DESCRIBED
[000:03:18;594] AS A BIMBO, A STALKER, A
[000:03:22;364] SEDUCTRESS.
[000:03:24;866] DESCRIBE YOURSELF.
[000:03:27;002] >> I THINK'M -- I'M V
[000:03:31;240] LOVING.
[000:03:31;640] I'M VERY LOYAL.
[000:03:33;942] I THINK I'M INTELLIGENT.
[000:03:37;479] CERIN FEEL THAT I
[000:03:40;282] HAVE BEEN MISPORTRAYED IN THE
[000:03:42;451] PAST YEAR AND UNFAIRLY SO.
[000:03:45;087] >> THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT
[000:03:46;555] YOU HAVE REALLY BEEN ABLE TO
[000:03:47;756] SPEAK OUT AND SAY PRETTY MUCH
[000:03:50;258] ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO SAY.ñ
[000:03:53;094] IS THERE SOMETHING THAT YOU
[000:03:54;362] PARTICULARLY DO WANT TO SAY AT
[000:03:55;530] THIS POINT?
[000:03:55;963] >> YES.
[000:03:59;166] I WAITED A LONG TIME TO BE ABLE
[000:04:03;037] TO EXPRESS TO THE COURY HOW
[000:04:06;507] VERY SORRY I AM FOR MY PART IN
[000:04:09;644] THIS PAST YEAR'S ORDEAL.
[000:04:13;514] AND OF COURSE, I'VE APOLOGIZED
[000:04:16;551] IN PRIVATE TO MY FAMILY AND TO
[000:04:18;686] MY FRIENDS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO
[000:04:21;122] PUBLICLY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I
[000:04:23;524] RECOGNIZE THE PAIN AND THE
[000:04:25;627] SUFFERING THAT THEY'VE GONE
[000:04:26;327] THROUGH BECAUSE OF THIS.6Qó
[000:04:30;764] I WOULDN'T DREAM OF ASKING
[000:04:33;467] CHELSEA AND MRS. CLINTONTO
[000:04:35;435] FORGE ME, BUTI WOULD ASK THEM
[000:04:37;738] TO KNOW THAT I AM VERY SORRY FOR
[000:04:41;541] WHAT HAPPENED AND FOR WHAT
[000:04:42;376] THEY'VE BEEN THROUGH.
[000:04:44;244] >> DO YOU TAKE RESPONSIBILITY
[000:04:45;646] FOR WHAT HAPPENED?
[000:04:47;648] >> NOT COMPLETE RESPONSIBILITY.
[000:04:49;483] IT TOOK ME WHILE, ACTUALLY, TO
[000:04:51;585] COME TO A PLACE WHERE I COULD
[000:04:54;354] SEE WHAT WAS MY FAULT, WHAT DID
[000:04:55;722] I NEED TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY
[000:04:57;023] FOR, AND WHAT WERE OTHER
[000:04:58;725] PEOPLE'S FAULTS AND
[000:04:59;359] RESPONSIBILITIES.
[000:05:01;928] >> THE WOMAN IN THE NATION'S
[000:05:04;297] SPOTLIGHT IS A PRODUCT OF
[000:05:05;364] BEVERLY HILLS, AFFLUENCE AND
[000:05:07;266] DIVORCE.
[000:05:08;601] MONICA'S PARENTS SEPARATED WHEN
[000:05:10;035] SHE WAS 14 YEARS OLD.
[000:05:11;570] SHE HAD A DIFFICULT RELATIONSHIP
[000:05:13;071] WITH HER FATHER, A DOCTOR WHO
[000:05:15;140] TREATS CANCER PATIENTS.
[000:05:16;375] BUT WAS VERY CLOSE TO HER
[000:05:17;042] MOTHER.
[000:05:20;379] ♪
[000:05:21;246] SHE FOUND AN OUTLET FOR HER
[000:05:22;915] ENERGIES IN SCHOOL PLAYS AND
[000:05:23;749] LOVED TO PERFORM.
[000:05:27;787] ♪ NOW I CAN TAKE THE TIME
[000:05:30;823] ♪ I CAN SEE MY LIFE
[000:05:35;194] >> ALL OF HER LIFE SHE HAS
[000:05:37;363] STRUGGLED WITH HER WEIGHT.
[000:05:39;331] IN HER TEENS THE, THE WEIGHT
[000:05:40;432] PROBLEM MADE HER FEEL UNPOPULAR.
[000:05:42;100] BY THE TIME SHE WAS 18, SHE
[000:05:43;668] FOUND THE ATTENTION SHE CRAVED
[000:05:44;903] IN THE WRONG PLACE.
[000:05:46;604] SHE GOT INVOLVED WITH A MARRIED
[000:05:47;806] MAN.ól
[000:05:50;508] YOU WERE IN HIGH SCHOOL AND THEN
[000:05:52;344] IN COLLEGE, YOU HAD AN AFFAIR
[000:05:54;213] WITH A MAN WHO WORKED AT YOUR
[000:05:56;681] HIGH SCHOOL NAMED ANDY BLIELER.
[000:06:00;886] IT WAS ON AGAINND OFF AGAIN.
[000:06:05;157] EVENTUALLY WHEN THE STORY BROKE,
[000:06:06;358] HE TURNED AGAINST YOU.
[000:06:07;392] THAT WAS PROBABLY VERY PAINFUL.
[000:06:09;161] CAN YOU DESCRI WHATññ AND
[000:06:11;429] BLIELER MEANT IN YOUR LIFE?
[000:06:16;434] >> AY ME I MY LIFE DURING
[000:06:20;772] A VERY DIFFICULT PERIOD FOR ME.
[000:06:24;275] I HA ALWAYS HADUESó WITH MY
[000:06:26;244] WEIGHT, THAT IS NOT A SECRET TO
[000:06:27;278] ANYBODY NOW.
[000:06:29;280] AND GROWING UP IN BEVERLY HILLS,
[000:06:31;583] HAVING A WEIGHT PROBLEM WAS JUST
[000:06:33;551] NOT ACCEPTABLE.
[000:06:35;754] AND ANDY BROUGHT TO MY LIFE A
[000:06:40;458] FEELING OF BEAUTY AND SENSUALITY
[000:06:44;962] ANDOBEINGélC WANTED AND BEING
[000:06:48;165] COMFORTABLE WITH MYSELF.
[000:06:49;000] HE BROUGHT ME SOMETHING, I THINK
[000:06:50;769] WHICH IS A BIG PART OF WHO I
[000:06:53;438] TOY, WHICH IS, FOR ME, AND I
[000:06:55;739] KNOW IT'S FUNNY, BUT IT'S BEING
[000:06:58;910] COMFORTABLE WITH MY SENSUALITY.
[000:07:01;612] ; THE GRAND JURY
[000:07:03;480] ASKED YOU WHY YOU KEPT HAVING
[000:07:05;082] Y DID U?WHOU?U;N.M
[000:07:08;752] >> HAVE TO SAY THAT WAS THE
[000:07:10;888] MOST DIFFICULT QUESTION TO
[000:07:13;090] ANSWER INm?ñENTIREPEENCE
[000:07:15;592] WITH THE GRAND JURY.
[000:07:16;794] IT WAS THE MOST POINTED
[000:07:18;095] QUESTION.
[000:07:22;599] FIRST, I HOPE I NEVER WILL
[000:07:24;302] HAVE -- I KNOW I NEVER WILL HAVE
[000:07:26;037] AN AFFAIR WITH A MARRIED MAN
[000:07:27;371] AGAIN.
[000:07:27;704] I HAVE TO PRAY ABOUT THAT.
[000:07:29;173] BUT CLEARLY, TO ME, WHAT I'VE
[000:07:31;174] COME TO SEE IS THAT THAT
[000:07:34;244] HAPPENED BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE
[000:07:35;913] ENOUGHEELINGS OF SELF-WORTH.
[000:07:37;714] SO THAT I DIDN'T FEEL THAT I WAS
[000:07:41;819] WORTHY OF BEING NUMBER ONE TO A
[000:07:44;020] MAN.
[000:07:47;157] AND --
[000:07:47;858] >> SO YOU HAD TO TAKE WHATEVER
[000:07:49;125] YOU COULD GET?
[000:07:50;293] >> UH-HUH.
[000:07:51;061] >> YOU CAME TO WASHINGTON AS AN
[000:07:52;596] INTERN.
[000:07:52;963] WERE YOU INTERESTED IN POLITICS?
[000:07:55;165] >> NO.
[000:07:56;066] I WASN'T.
[000:07:56;600] I WAS LOOKINGó TO GET AWAY FM
[000:08:00;504] ANDY IN PORTLAND, AND IT WAS A
[000:08:03;173] GOOD OPPORTUNITY.
[000:08:03;740] I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE
[000:08:05;476] INTRIGUING.
[000:08:05;976] >> YOU TESTIFIED THAT SHORTLY
[000:08:07;610] AFTER YOUR INTERNSHIP BEGAN,
[000:08:09;312] THAT YOU AND THE PRESIDENT BEGAN
[000:08:10;713] WHAT YOU DESCRIBED AS INTENSE
[000:08:12;782] FLIRTING.
[000:08:15;085] WHEN DID YOU SEE HIM?
[000:08:16;919] WHAT WAS THIS INTENSE FLIRTING
[000:08:17;854] LIKE?
[000:08:21;657] >> THE FIRST TIME I SAW HIM WAS
[000:08:24;727] AT AN ARRIVAL CEREMONY.
[000:08:33;036] AND I WAS -- MY BREATH WAS TAKEN
[000:08:35;737] AWAY.
[000:08:36;138] I MEAN, HE SORT OF STEPPED OUT
[000:08:38;040] ON TO THE PLATFORM AND IT WAS
[000:08:41;843] THIS MAN WHO WAS FULL OF ENERGY
[000:08:45;914] AND SENSUALITY As
[000:08:49;651] ATTRACTIVENESS.
[000:08:50;152] AND FROM THAT MOMENT ON, THE FEW
[000:08:52;454] OCCASIONS WHEN I SAW HIM AT
[000:08:55;090] DEPARTE CEREMONIESR WHAT-NOT
[000:08:58;327] THERE WAS INTENSE EYE CONTACT.
[000:09:03;332] >> THIS PHOTOGRAPH WAS TAKEN
[000:09:05;367] BEFORE YOU ACTUALLY BEGAN YOUR
[000:09:07;302] RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PRESIDENT.
[000:09:11;072] YES?
[000:09:11;472] >> YES.
[000:09:12;340] >> WHAT DOES THIS BRING TO YOU,
[000:09:13;741] WHAT THOUGHTS?
[000:09:15;910] >> INTENSITY.8
[000:09:18;379] >> HE RECOGNIZES YOU HERE.
[000:09:19;880] HE'S LOOKING AT YOU.
[000:09:23;017] >> THIS WAS HIS BIRTHDAY PARTY
[000:09:24;785] IN AUGUST OF '95.
[000:09:26;787] WHEN I FOUND OUT WE WERE GOING
[000:09:28;156] TO BE ABLE TO GO TO THIS
[000:09:30;091] BIRTHDAY PARTY, I HAD GONE HOME
[000:09:31;625] AND PUT MY LUCKY SUIT BACK
[000:09:33;528] ON WHICH I HAD THE DAY BEFORE.
[000:09:35;129] AND I THOUGHT MAYBE HE'LL
[000:09:36;397] RECOGNIZE ME AGAIN.
[000:09:37;165] ERE WA A CITENT ABO
[000:09:38;599] IT.
[000:09:38;899] IT WAS FUN.
[000:09:40;368] >> OKAY.
[000:09:41;102] YOU'VE HAD THIS FLIRTATION WITH
[000:09:43;571] THE PRESIDENT AT MOSTLY PUBLIC
[000:09:47;108] AFFAIRS OR PLACES WHERE BIRTHDAY
[000:09:49;142] PARTIES, OTHER
[000:09:50;510] NOVEMBER 15, 1995.
[000:09:52;179] THE GORNMENT IS SHUT DOWN.
[000:09:54;147] THE INTERNS TAKE ON GREATER
[000:09:56;450] RESPONSIBILITY AT THE WHITE
[000:09:57;284] HOUSE.
[000:09:57;685] AND ON THAT DAY, YOU FOUND
[000:09:59;753] YOURSELF ALONE WITH BILL CLINTOE
[000:10:04;792] AND IFTED THEAC OFYOUR
[000:10:06;426] CKET ANDOU SHOWED TH
[000:10:07;494] PRESxrT OF THE UNITED STATES
[000:10:09;897] YOUR THONG UNDERWEAR.
[000:10:12;700] WHERE DID YOU GET THE NER?
[000:10:14;034] I MEAN, WHO DOES THAT?
[000:10:20;040] I'M SURE AS YOU KNO
[000:10:21;141] EVERYBODY WHO HAS EVER BEEN IN
[000:10:23;143] ANY SITUATION WHERE THERE'S
[000:10:24;844] FLIRTATION, IT'S A DANCE.
[000:10:28;681] AND IT IS SORT OF ONE PERSON
[000:10:31;318] DOES SOMETHING, THEN DO YOU MEET
[000:10:32;486] THAT PERSON AND RAISE THE
[000:10:33;753] STAKES?
[000:10:34;121] ANTHAT WAS HOW OUR FLIRTATION
[000:10:36;289] RELATIONSHIP WAS PROGRESSING.
[000:10:37;991] IT WAS A VERY -- I KNOW THAT IT
[000:10:40;059] SORT OF HAS BEEN HIGHLIGHTED IN
[000:10:43;130] EVERYTHING IN THIS PAST YEAR.
[000:10:45;332] I'M NOT GOING TO DEMONSTRATE FOR
[000:10:46;699] YOU, BUT I WILL -- IF YOU TAKE
[000:10:48;602] MY WORD FOR IT, IT WAS A SMALL,
[000:10:52;372] SUBTLE FLIRTATIOUS GESTURE.
[000:10:55;442] AND THAT'S ME.
[000:10:57;844] >> WAS IT SAYING, I'M AVAILABLE?
[000:10:59;879] >> WELL, I THINK IT WAS SAYING
[000:11:02;481] I'M INTETOO.
[000:11:03;850] I'LL PLA
[000:11:07;053] >> THAT EVENING, THE PRESIDENT
[000:11:08;755] INVITED YOU TO SEE HIM
[000:11:09;388] PRIVATELY.ó
[000:11:11;524] WHAT DID YOU SAY?
[000:11:14;326] >> WELL, WHEN I FIRST FOUND
[000:11:16;095] MYSELF ALONE WITH H WAS
[000:11:18;497] VERY NERVOUS.
[000:11:21;000] AND WE WERE HAVING SMALL TALK.
[000:11:22;535] MYSELF, OKAY.R THINKING TOñ
[000:11:26;572] WELL, THIS IS IT.
[000:11:28;841] IF THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN,
[000:11:29;608] MAYBE YOU SHOULD LET HIM KNOW
[000:11:30;977] YOU'RE INTERESTED.
[000:11:31;610] SO BLURTED OUT, YOU KNOW, I
[000:11:33;579] HAVE A CRUSH ON YOU.
[000:11:35;981] AND THAT WAS HIS CUE, I GUS,jS
[000:11:38;784] THAT IWAKAY R HIM TOñ
[000:11:40;852] PROCEED IN WHAT HE WANTED AND
[000:11:42;688] WHAT HE WASLING.
[000:11:43;655] >> HE KISSED YOU.
[000:11:44;956] >> YES.
[000:11:45;523] >> WHAT DID YOU THINK?
[000:11:46;524] >>E'S A GOOD KISSER.
[000:11:49;795] >> HOW DID IT BECOME SO INTIMATE
[000:11:51;262] SO QUICKLY?-w
[000:11:54;766] >> THIS MAY BE HARD FOR PEOPLE
[000:11:59;204] TO HEAR OR ACCEPT.
[000:12:01;372] I SAID IT BEFORE I THOUGHT HE
[000:12:03;975] WAS MY SEXUAL SOULMATE.
[000:12:06;178] I THINK WHEN YOUoLL YOURSELF
[000:12:08;546] TO OPEN UP THAT WAY, THINGS
[000:12:10;047] HAPPEN.
[000:12:12;116] >> YOU ARE A VERY SENSUAL YOUNG
[000:12:15;252] WOMAN.
[000:12:15;853] >> UH-HUH.
[000:12:16;253] >> PASSIONATE.
[000:12:16;721] >> YES.
[000:12:18;555] >> IS BILL CLINTON A SENSUOUS,
[000:12:21;058] PASSIONATE MAN?
[000:12:21;625] >> GOSH, I'LL PROBABLY GET IN
[000:12:23;427] TROUBLE FOR SAYING THIS --
[000:12:25;462] >> NOT IN ANY MORE TROUBLE THAN
[000:12:27;231] YOU ALREADY HAVE BEEN IN MONICA.
[000:12:29;333] >> I HAVE IMMUNITY.
[000:12:30;634] FOR NOW.
[000:12:33;637] I THINK HE IS -- I THINK HE'S
[000:12:36;774] A VERY SENSUAL MAN WHO HAS A LOT
[000:12:39;509] OF SENSUAL FEELINGS.
[000:12:41;011] AND I THINK HE ALSO HAS A VERY
[000:12:43;313] STRONG RELIGIOUS UPBRINGING.
[000:12:44;848] I THINK THAT HE STRUGGLES TO --
[000:12:48;051] I THINK HE STRUGGLES WITH HIS
[000:12:50;086] SENSUALITY BECAUSE I DON'T THINK
[000:12:51;455] HE THINKS IT'S OKAY.
[000:12:52;822] HE TRIES TO HOLD HIMSELF BACK.
[000:12:54;758] AND THEN CAN'T ANYMORE.
[000:12:57;761] >> THAT FIRST ENCOUNTER, THE
[000:12:59;229] PRESIDENT TOOK A PHONE CALL FROM
[000:13:00;364] A CONGRESSMAN WHILE YOU WERE
[000:13:02;432] VERY CLOSELY TOGETHER.
[000:13:03;634] HOW DID YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT?
[000:13:07;137] >> IT WAS CERTAINLY A VERY -- I
[000:13:09;573] MEAN, IT WAS AN INTIMATE TOPIC.
[000:13:14;444] THERE WAS A LEVEL OF EXCITEMENT
[000:13:16;112] ABOUT THAT.
[000:13:17;748] EXCITEMENT AND MAYBE A LITTLE
[000:13:18;749] BIT OF DANGER THAT WAS INVOLVED
[000:13:20;616] IN THIS RELATIONSHIP.
[000:13:21;884] TO PRETEND THAT THERE WASN'T
[000:13:23;352] WOULDN'T BE TRHFUL.
[000:13:24;387] >> IT DIDN'TMAKE YOU FEEL
[000:13:25;821] CHEAP?
[000:13:26;155] >> NO, IT DIDN'T.
[000:13:27;323] IT DID NOT.
[000:13:28;190] NOT AT THAT POINT, NO.
[000:13:29;392] >> NOW, THE SECOND TIME THAT YOU
[000:13:30;893] WERE WITH THE PRESIDENT, YOU
[000:13:32;762] TOOK HIS SHIRT OFF?
[000:13:33;962] >> I THINK HE UNBUTTONED HIS
[000:13:36;399] SHIRT.
[000:13:40;169] AND IT WAS -- IT WAS ONE OF THE
[000:13:43;639] MORE ENDEARING MOMENTS THAT I
[000:13:46;108] HAD WITH HIM.
[000:13:46;809] I MEAN, I SORT OF --
[000:13:50;012] >> THE PRESIDENT SORT OF SUCKED
[000:13:51;980] IN HIS STOMACH, AS A LOT OF MEN
[000:13:54;482] OR WOMEN WOULD DO.
[000:13:55;317] >> AS I D.
[000:13:57;151] >> AS YOU DID.
[000:13:57;619] >> HE WAS JUST ALL OF A SUDDEN
[000:13:58;653] BECAME VERY REAL AND VERY HUMAN
[000:14:01;923] >> YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN VERY
[000:14:03;725] SELF-CONSCIOUS ABOUT YOUR
[000:14:04;392] WEIGHT.
[000:14:04;759] >> YES.
[000:14:06;093] >> DID BILxç MAKE YO
[000:14:07;161] 4EL GD ABOUT T
[000:14:08;430] ABOUT THAT?
[000:14:09;798] >> YES.
[000:14:10;598] VE; SWEETwOUT.RSNDING A8
[000:14:16;170] AND I THINK BECAUSE HE KNEW I
[000:14:19;974] WOUOAKE/AN EFFORT TO SAY
[000:14:23;244] TO ME, OH, YOU LOOK LIKE YOU'VE
[000:14:25;313] LOST WEIGHT OR YOU LOOK SKINNY
[000:14:27;248] TODAY, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
[000:14:28;350] IT WAS SWEET.
[000:14:29;717] IT MAY HAVE NOT BEEN TRUE, BUT
[000:14:31;752] SWEET.
[000:14:32;286] >> TWO MONTHS AFTER YOUR FIRST
[000:14:34;355] MEETG, IWAHEN YOUR FIFTH
[000:14:36;157] SEXUAL ENCOUNTER.
[000:14:37;091] AND YOU SAID TO BILL CLINTON, IS
[000:14:39;193] THIS ONLY ABOU SEX?
[000:14:40;294] OR DO YOUoyAVE SOME INTEREST N
[000:14:41;829] YIO T TO KNOW ME AS A
[000:14:43;297] RSON?
[000:14:44;031] WHAT DID HE SAY TO YOU THEN?
[000:14:47;001] >>wB H EVERYONE WILL OBABÑ
[000:14:49;603] FIND IT HARDTO BELIEVE.
[000:14:50;738] HE STARTED TO TEAR UP AND TOLD
[000:14:54;876] MEñÑTH HE NEVm W ME T
[000:14:58;579] THINK THAT.
[000:15:00;781] AND THAT THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS
[000:15:02;783] RELATIONSHIP WAS ABOUT.
[000:15:03;450] DID HE SAY THINGS THAT, YOU
[000:15:05;451] KN WHY HE WAS DRAWN TO YOU?
[000:15:07;387] >> YES.
[000:15:07;888] >> LIKE WHAT?
[000:15:08;688] >>ñE SAID THAT I HA AOT OF
[000:15:11;057] ENERGY A THAT I LIT UP A ROOM
[000:15:13;927] WHEN I WALKED IN.
[000:15:15;128] AND HE WAS AWN TO MYGY
[000:15:19;632] AND HE THOUGHT I WAS ATTRACTIVE.
[000:15:23;136] AND HE THOUGHT I WA SMART.
[000:15:25;305] >> SMART ENOUGH TO SNEAK IN AND
[000:15:26;672] OUT OF ONE OF THE MOST SECURE
[000:15:27;840] PLACES IN THE WORLD.
[000:15:29;309] THE OVAL OFFICE.
[000:15:31;677] >> MS. CURRIE'S OFFICE IS HERE.
[000:15:33;579] AND THAT CONNECTS INTO THE OVAL
[000:15:36;449] OFFICE.
[000:15:36;883] AND THERE'S A DOOR OVER HERE
[000:15:38;250] THAT LEADS INTO A BA HALLWAY.
[000:15:40;685] >> AND IT WAS IN THAT HALLWAY
[000:15:42;354] AND THE ADJACENT STUDY AND
[000:15:44;790] BATHRO THAT MANY OF HER TRYSTS
[000:15:46;591] WITH THE PRESIDENT TOOK PLACE.
[000:15:49;128] INGENUITY TRIUMPHED OVER
[000:15:50;462] SECURITY.
[000:15:50;862] >> THERE AREi SOS OFc W
[000:15:53;032] TO GET OUT OF THERE.
[000:15:53;966] >> I SEE.
[000:15:54;566] SO IT ISç N,T T OVAL
[000:15:58;304] DID YOU ANDHE PSIDE WOR?
[000:16:00;406] ABT MEBODYOMING IN AND
[000:16:01;640] FINDING YOU?
[000:16:02;541] >> YES.
[000:16:03;008] >> YOU DID?
[000:16:03;642] >> YES.
[000:16:04;176] >> W THIPAF 1?2;
[000:16:07;079] IT WASN'T FOR ME.
[000:16:08;180] I DON'T THINK IT WAS FOR ME.
[000:16:10;282] >> DURING THOSE WEEKS, DID YOU
[000:16:12;516] EVER So> YOURSELF, I'M DOING
[000:16:16;587] SOMETHING WRONG?
[000:16:17;088] THIS IS BAD FOR THE PRESIDENT.
[000:16:19;790] THIS I BAD FOR THE COUNTRY.
[000:16:21;192] DID YOU EVER THINK AUT THAT?
[000:16:25;997] >> Iñ NOW, WITH EVERYTHING
[000:16:28;333] THAT'S HAPPENED, I FEEL BAD THAT
[000:16:31;102] I DIDN'T, BUT I DIDN'T AT THAT
[000:16:31;936] TIME.
[000:16:34;105] IAS ENAMORED WITH HIM AND I
[000:16:37;041] WAS EXCITED AND I WAS ENJOYING
[000:16:39;277] IT.
[000:16:39;610] >> MONICA, THE PRESIDENT AND YOU
[000:16:41;179] TALKED ABOUT HOW YOU COULD
[000:16:42;646] EXPLAIN YOUR FREQUENT VISITS TO
[000:16:44;248] <÷ OVAL OFFICE.
[000:16:45;483] AND HE SAID THAT YOU COULD SWÑ
[000:16:46;650] THAT YOU WEREñNñmELIV< PA
[000:16:48;452] BETTY CURRIE OR JUST COMING
[000:16:50;153] TO SEE HER.
[000:16:51;254] SO FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, YOU
[000:16:53;457] KNEW THAT YOU HAD TO DENY
[000:16:56;026] RELATIONSH.
[000:16:57;527] YOU KNEW THAT YOU HAD TO LIE.7
[000:17:00;964] >> I HAD HAD AELATIONSHIWI
[000:17:02;665] A MARRIED MAN BEFORE, AND I KNEW
[000:17:04;301] THE RULES.
[000:17:05;935] SO YES.
[000:17:09;039] >> I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO
[000:17:10;974] PERSONAL, BUT2VER I SAY I
[000:17:12;575] DON'T WANT TO GET TOO PERSONAL
[000:17:14;478] BUT, THEN YOU KNOW.
[000:17:15;512] >> WELL, I'M OUT OF HERE.
[000:17:16;679] >> THE IMPRESSION THAT THE
[000:17:19;149] PRESIDENT GAVE WAS TH THIS WAS
[000:17:20;550] A ONE-WAY STREET, THAT HE WAS
[000:17:23;419] GRATIFIED ANYOU WERE NOT.
[000:17:24;687] BUT THE TRUTH IS THAT YOU WERE
[000:17:26;322] GRATIFIED.
[000:17:28;457] YES.
[000:17:28;791] >> YES.
[000:17:29;425] >> YES.
[000:17:32;061] >> AND THAT THERE WERE THINGS
[000:17:33;530] WERE DONE THAT MADEOU
[000:17:35;331] FEELAS A WOMAN,APnND
[000:17:38;334] CONTENTED?
[000:17:38;735] >> YES.
[000:17:43;006] >> BUT HER HAPPINESS HAD ITS
[000:17:45;307] LIMITATIONS.
[000:17:45;742] THERE WERE PHYSICAL BOUNDARIES,
[000:17:47;544] AND THE PRESIDENT WAS NOT A FREE
[000:17:49;478] MAN.
[000:17:49;979] THERE WAS, AFTER ALL, A WIFE AND
[000:17:52;015] A DAUGHTER.
[000:17:53;482] WHEN WE COME BACK, MONICA TAKES
[000:17:55;451] US INTO THIS INTIMATE TERRITORY
[000:17:58;587] DID YOU EVER THINK ABOUT WHAT
[000:18:00;222] HILLARY CLINTON MIGHT BEo FEELG
[000:18:03;025] OR WOULD FEEL IF SHE KNEW?
[000:18:12;101] REVITALIQUE COMBINES
[000:18:12;101] SENSATIONAL COLOR #1
[000:18:14;937] ÷F
[000:18:16;038] WITH NEW LIFE, NEW VIBRANCY
[000:18:17;673] NEW SHINE.
[000:18:19;341] AND REVITALIQUE OND
[000:18:19;341] OTHER HAIRCOLORS
[000:18:21;277] K&A
[000:18:21;277] WI AAILY PTECTANT
[000:18:24;280] TO SBETWEEN COLORINGS.TALIZEw
[000:18:25;281] REVITALIQUE AGE-DEFYING COLOR.
[000:19:47;160] PTSSIBLEYSO ADVANCED,
[000:19:47;160] THE U.S. DEPTMENDUCAONM CLAIROç
[000:19:47;160] AND NC.
[000:19:54;034] >>> AS WE HAVE SEEN, MONICA
[000:19:56;602] LEWINSKY'S RELATIONSHIP WITH
[000:19:57;503] PRESIDENT CLINTON BEGAN WITH A
[000:20:00;506] LIGHT-HEARTED FLIRTATION AND
[000:20:01;841] QUICKLY BECAME FAR MORE
[000:20:03;476] INTIMATE.
[000:20:03;877] BUT IN MONICA'S VIEW, THERE WAS
[000:20:05;712] MUCH MORE THAN SEX.
[000:20:06;713] AS YOU WILL NOW HEAR, SHE FELL
[000:20:08;514] IN LOVE WITH BILL CLINTON AND
[000:20:09;949] THOUGHT HE MIGHT ACTUALLY LEAVE
[000:20:11;517] HIS WIFE AND MARRY HER.
[000:20:13;653] INDEED, IN A NEW BOOK, "MONICA'S
[000:20:17;022] STORY," WRITTEN BY BRITISH
[000:20:18;558] AUTHOR ANDREW MORTON, THE
[000:20:20;025] PRESIDENT IS DESCRIBED IN THE
[000:20:21;093] EARLY DAYS OF THE AFFAIR AS A
[000:20:23;429] LOVE-SICK TEENAGER.
[000:20:24;363] FIRST, THOUGH, THERE IS THE
[000:20:25;631] NATURE OF THE PHYSICAL
[000:20:27;300] RELATIONSHIP ITSELF, A QUESTION
[000:20:28;668] THAT WAS CRITICAL AT PRESIDENT
[000:20:32;838] CLINTON'S IMPEACHMENT TRIAL.
[000:20:33;872] YOU HAD SAID THAT ORAL SEXS
[000:20:35;708] NOT A SEXUAL RETIONSHIP
[000:20:38;143] THAT YOU CALL IT WHAT?
[000:20:39;845] >>MESSING AROUND.
[000:20:41;280] >> MESSING AROUND.
[000:20:42;315] >> FOOLING AROUND.
[000:20:43;249] >> SO THEN HOW WOULD YOU
[000:20:44;517] DESCRIBE THE RIONSHIP?
[000:20:45;884] I MEAN, WOULD YOU SAY THAT IT
[000:20:47;453] S NONSEXUAL?
[000:20:48;221] >> NO.
[000:20:48;787] I WAS ABLE TO,NY MD, SAY
[000:20:51;356] WE DIDN'T HA A SEXUAL
[000:20:53;992] RELATIONSHIP BECAUSEE DN'T
[000:20:56;361] HAVE INTERCOURSE.
[000:20:57;329] BUT THAT IT WAS A -- IN A SORT
[000:21:01;566] OF LOOSE WAY, IT WAS A SEXUAL
[000:21:03;936] RELATIONSHIP.
[000:21:04;402] >> THROUGHOUT MOST OF THE
[000:21:07;139] RELATIONSHIP, THE ORAL SEX WAS
[000:21:10;109] NOT BROUGHT TO COMPLETION FOR
[000:21:11;210] THE PRESIDENT.
[000:21:11;676] >> CORRECT.
[000:21:14;079] >> WHY NOT?
[000:21:17;549] WHAT DID HE SAY?
[000:21:18;483] >> IT'S EMBARRASSING.
[000:21:22;687] HE SAID THAT HE -- AT FIRST, HE
[000:21:27;024] SAID THAT HE NEEDED TO BE ABLE
[000:21:28;492] TO TRUST ME MORE AND THATú --
[000:21:37;935] THEN OVER TIME IT WAS HIM NOT
[000:21:39;603] WANTING TO GET ADDICTED TO ME,
[000:21:41;538] HIS WORDS.
[000:21:45;076] SO --
[000:21:45;409] >> DID YOU EVER TELL BILL
[000:21:46;610] CLINTON THAT YOU WERE IN LOVE
[000:21:49;313] WITH HIM?
[000:21:49;881] >> YES.
[000:21:50;248] >> YOU DID?
[000:21:50;948] WHAT DID HE SAY?
[000:21:51;715] >> HE SAID, THAT MEANS A LOT TO
[000:21:54;685] ME.
[000:21:54;986] >> DID HE EVER TELL YOU THAT HE
[000:21:55;753] WAS IN LOVE WITH YOU?
[000:21:56;353] >> NO.
[000:21:59;791] >> HOW MUCH OF THE INFATUATION
[000:22:01;592] DO YOU THINK WAS BILL CLINTON
[000:22:02;926] AND HOW MUCH WAS THAT IT WAS THE
[000:22:05;128] PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES?
[000:22:08;632] >> I THINK THE÷? INITIAL
[000:22:12;336] ATTRACTION HAD MORE TO DO WITH
[000:22:14;037] IT BEING THE PRESIDENT AND, YES,
[000:22:16;440] I FOUND HIM ATTRACTIVE, BUT I
[000:22:19;310] THINK THAT I CAME TO SEE HIM
[000:22:20;644] MORE AS A MAN THAN AS A
[000:22:22;780] PRESIDENT.
[000:22:23;246] >> AND OVER THE COURSE OF THE
[000:22:24;915] RELATIONSHIP, YOU AND BILL
[000:22:26;116] CLINTON EXCHANGED GIFTS.
[000:22:28;385] AND ONE OF THEM THAT HE GAVE YOU
[000:22:30;187] WAS THIS BOOK "LEAVES OF GRASS"
[000:22:33;691] BY WALT WHITMAN.
[000:22:34;624] >> YES.
[000:22:35;124] >> HAVE SAID OF ALL THE
[000:22:37;860] GIFTS, THñ HAD THE MOST MEANING
[000:22:38;861] TO YOU.
[000:22:39;729] MONICA, DID YOU KNOW THAT THIS
[000:22:41;431] BOOK "LEAVES OF GRASS" WAS A
[000:22:43;700] BOOK GIVEN BYHE PRESIDENT TO
[000:22:44;934] HILLARY CNTONS THE FIRST
[000:22:46;369] GIFT HE GAVE TO HER?
[000:22:47;870] >> NO.
[000:22:48;571] I DIDN'T KNOW THAT AT THE TIME.
[000:22:51;207] I CAME TO LEARN THAT IN THIS
[000:22:53;242] PAST YEAR.
[000:22:56;111] >> WELL, KNOWINGHIS, DOES IT
[000:22:56;846] MAKE YOU FEEL BE OR RSE?
[000:23:00;717] CLEARLY, I GUESS IT'S SOMETHING
[000:23:07;523] HE GAVE TO PEOPLE THAT MEANT
[000:23:09;858] SOMETHING TO HIM, BUT AT THE
[000:23:11;526] SAME TIME, IT TAKES AWAY THE
[000:23:14;730] GENUINENESS OF THE GESTURE.
[000:23:16;197] >> IN THE EARLY DAYS OF YOUR
[000:23:19;267] RELATIONSHIP, BILL CLINTON
[000:23:20;335] CALLED YOU EVERY FOUR OR FIVE
[000:23:22;404] DAYS.
[000:23:22;838] YOU HAD OVER 50 TELEPHONE
[000:23:25;440] CONVERSATIONS.
[000:23:25;940] I MEAN, THAT'S AN ENORMOUS
[000:23:28;443] AMOUNT OF CONVERSATIONS.
[000:23:29;944] MOST OF THEM WERE LATE AT NIGHT.
[000:23:31;680] SOMETIMES YOU DID WHAT YOU CALL
[000:23:33;248] PHONE SEX.
[000:23:34;516] A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT
[000:23:35;650] PHONE SEX IS.
[000:23:40;221] AS BEST YOU CAN EXPLAIN IT.
[000:23:45;093] >> YOU AND MR. JORDAN.
[000:23:46;961] >> VERNON JORDAN DIDN'T
[000:23:48;396] UNDERSTAND IT EITHER, AS I
[000:23:50;231] UNDERSTAND.
[000:23:53;868] >> IT'S A WAY OF BEING INTIMATE
[000:23:56;704] OVER THE PHONE WHEN YOU CAN'T BE
[000:23:58;172] INTIMATE IN PERSON.
[000:24:00;441] PHYSICALLY INTIMATE.
[000:24:02;377] >> PHYSICALLY INTIMATE.
[000:24:03;711] >> OH, GOSH.
[000:24:04;812] I'M TALKING ABOUT --
[000:24:16;090] THIS IS SO EMBARRASSING.
[000:24:20;928] WHAT -- WHAT WE WOULD DO IF WE
[000:24:22;830] COULD BE WITH EACH OTHER AT THAT
[000:24:23;764] TIME.
[000:24:25;533] >> I THINK I GET IT.
[000:24:26;199] >> GOOD.
[000:24:27;601] IT'S FUN.
[000:24:30;905] >> DURING THE RELATIONSHIP, YOU
[000:24:32;873] TOLDENDS THAT YOU THOUGHT
[000:24:34;107] THAT YOU AND BILL CLINTON MIGHT
[000:24:35;543] HAVE A FUTURE TOGETHER.
[000:24:37;478] YOU FANTASIZED ABOUT MARRYING
[000:24:38;512] HIM.
[000:24:40;047] YOU EVEN ASKED VERNON JORDAN IF
[000:24:42;316] HE THOUGHT THAT THE PRESIDENT
[000:24:43;250] WOULD LEAVE THE FIRST LADY AT
[000:24:45;453] THE END OF Hw' PRESIDENCY.
[000:24:47;455] DID BILL CLINTON SAY ANYTHING TO
[000:24:49;523] GIVE YOU HOPE THAT THIS MIGHT
[000:24:51;391] REALLY HAPPEN?
[000:24:51;859] >> HE DID.
[000:24:54;761] THE PRESIDENT AND I WERE HAVING
[000:24:56;896] A VERY INTIMATE DISCUSSION, AND
[000:25:05;339] HE SD THAT HE WISD HE HAD
[000:25:07;640] MORE TIME FOR ME.
[000:25:09;843] AND I SAID, THINKING WELL, SURE,
[000:25:12;446] YOU'RE PRETTY BUSY.
[000:25:13;146] YOU ARE THE PRESIDENT.
[000:25:15;548] THAT WELL MAYBE IN THREE YEARS
[000:25:17;050] YOU MIGHT.
[000:25:17;717] WHEN HE DOESN'T< SUCH AN
[000:25:20;287] OVERWHELMING JOB.
[000:25:20;887] AND HE SAID, WELL, I MIGHT BE
[000:25:23;690] ALONE IN THREE YEARS.
[000:25:25;058] AND I WAS A LITTLE -- I WAS VERY
[000:25:28;794] STNED TO HEAR HIM SAY THAT.
[000:25:32;298] AND SO I SAID, WL,HINK
[000:25:34;500] WE'D BE A GOOD TEAM.?
[000:25:37;970] AND HE SAID, WELL, WHAT ARE WE
[000:25:39;771] GOING TO DO WHEN I'M 75 AND HAVE
[000:25:42;108] TO PEE 25 TIMES A DAY?
[000:25:46;379] SO IT WAS --
[000:25:48;847] THAT TO ME CERTAINLY INDICATED
[000:25:51;317] THAT IT WAS A THOUGHT THAT
[000:25:54;786] >> DID YOU EVER MEET HILLARY
[000:25:56;088] CLINTON?
[000:25:56;922] >> I WOULDN'T SAY THAT I'VE MET
[000:25:58;391] HER AND SPOKEN WITH HER IN A WAY
[000:26:00;226] THAT I WOULD FEEL I KNOW HER.
[000:26:02;093] IT WAS VERY BRIEFLY, MORE
[000:26:06;864] HANDSHAKES, HANDSHAKE.
[000:26:08;333] >> MONICA, DID YOU FEEL THAT YOU
[000:26:09;967] WERE IN COMPETITION WITH HILLARY
[000:26:10;735] CLINTON?
[000:26:11;802] >> SOMETIM.
[000:26:12;703] SURE.
[000:26:17;175] I THINK YOU'D NEED TO LOOK AT
[000:26:19;044] THAT AS THAT SHE WAS THE WIFE OF
[000:26:20;811] THIS MAN THAT I WAS IN LOVE
[000:26:22;013] k WHEN YOU SAW HILLARY CLINTO,
[000:26:25;316] SOMETIMES SHE WASZH THE
[000:26:26;451] PRESIDEN
[000:26:26;851] DIHE THEN ACKNOWLEDGE YOU IN
[000:26:28;253] ANY WAY?
[000:26:28;619] >> YES.
[000:26:31;789] >> SMILING, SAYING SOMETHING?
[000:26:33;658] >> YES.
[000:26:35;927] >> SO HEWOULD BE WITH HER, BUT
[000:26:37;794] YOU WOULD STILL KNOW THAT HE WAS
[000:26:39;229] LOOKING AT YOU OR THINKING OF
[000:26:40;330] YOU?
[000:26:40;630] >> UH-HUH.
[000:26:43;600] >> DID YOU EVER THINK ABOUT WHAT
[000:26:45;069] HILLARY CLINTON MIGHT BE FEELING
[000:26:47;737] OR WOULD FEEL IF SHE KNEW?
[000:26:51;408] DID YOU EVER THINK ABOUT HILLARY
[000:26:52;176] CLINTON?
[000:26:53;777] >> I DID.
[000:26:54;711] I THINK I THOUGHT ABOUT HER A
[000:26:55;579] LOT.
[000:26:57;881] BUT I NEVER THOUGHT SHE WOULD
[000:26:59;383] FIND OUT.
[000:27:00;084] I WAS NEVER GOING TO TALK ABOUT
[000:27:01;251] q>> DID YOU EVER THINK ABO
[000:27:04;121] CHELSEA?Coç
[000:27:09;293] I DID IN --
[000:27:14;864] THIS IS SORT OF A HARDHI
[000:27:16;399] EXPLAIN, BUT BECAUSE I CARED SO
[000:27:19;435] ó E
[000:27:23;139] MEANS THE WORLD TO HIM -- I ;
[000:27:26;843] SHIS THE MOST PRECIOUS TNG
[000:27:28;277] TO HIM, I HAD A VERY STRONG
[000:27:31;347] AFFINITY FOR HER, EVEN HAVING
[000:27:33;249] NEVER MET , HAVING ANY
[000:27:34;684] INTERACTION WITH HER.
[000:27:36;419] AND WANTED GOOD THINGS FOR HER.
[000:27:37;386] >> NOW, APPROXIMATELY FIVE
[000:27:39;689] MONTHS INTO THE RELATIONSHIP,
[000:27:41;057] YOU WERE TRANSFERRED TO THE
[000:27:43;026] PENTAGON.
[000:27:43;760] OBVIOUSLY, THERE WERE PEOPLE WHO
[000:27:44;961] FELT THAT YOU SHOULD BE KEPT
[000:27:46;929] AWAY FROM THE PRESIDENT.
[000:27:48;431] >> THE MEANIES.
[000:27:49;732] >> WELL, YOU CALL THEM THE
[000:27:51;234] MEANIES, BUT IN A WAY, THEY WERE
[000:27:52;401] RIGHT, WEREN'T THEY?
[000:27:57;273] >> I DON'T THINK SO.
[000:27:59;375] I DON'T THI ññAT MY
[000:28:03;412] RELATIONSHIP HURT THE JOB HE WAS
[000:28:05;114] ING.
[000:28:05;615] ITIDTURT THE WO W
[000:28:06;849] G.ñ
[000:28:08;284] WAS BWEEN US.
[000:28:10;553] AND I DON'T THINK IT WAS THEIR
[000:28:12;421] BUSINESS, ACTUALLY.
[000:28:14;190] >> SHE WAS TRANSFERRED AND THE
[000:28:15;691] PRESIDENT DID NOTHING TO STOP
[000:28:16;425] IT.
[000:28:17;860] INSTEAD, ACCORDING TO MONICA, HE
[000:28:20;428] PROMISED HER EMPHATICALLY, THAT
[000:28:22;531] IF HE WERE RE-ELECTED IN THE
[000:28:24;633] FALL, HE WOULD, WITHOUT FAIL,
[000:28:25;968] BRING HER BACK TO WORK AT THE
[000:28:29;404] WHITE HOUSE.
[000:28:30;873] AFTER YOU WERE TRANSFERRED TO
[000:28:31;606] THE PENTAGON IN APRIL OF 1996,
[000:28:32;908] YOU DIDN'T SEE THE PRESIDENT
[000:28:34;176] PRIVATELY FOR ALMOST A YEAR.
[000:28:35;144] HE WAS OBVIOUSLY TRYING TO STAY
[000:28:37;579] AWAY FROM YOU.
[000:28:38;413] BUT YOU WOULD SHOW UP AGAIN AND
[000:28:40;282] AGAIN AT PUBLIC PLACES WHERE HE
[000:28:42;584] WOULD SEE YOU, HOPING THAT HE
[000:28:43;952] WOULD THEN CALL YOU, SEE YOU, SO
[000:28:45;020] FORTH.
[000:28:46;855] WHY LEAVE HIM ALONE
[000:28:48;223] AND JUST GET ON WITH YOUR LIFE?
[000:28:51;060] >> OH, I GUESS Iv Tñ ISSUE EVN
[000:28:55;429] WITH THE WAY THAT'S
[000:28:56;197] ÑARACTERIZED.
[000:28:59;834] IT WAS -- WE COULDN'T SEE EACH
[000:29:01;535] OTHER BECAUSE OF THE ELECTION.
[000:29:04;072] THER WAS --
[000:29:07;675] SO -- AND AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT I
[000:29:10;311] WAS LED TO BELIEVE.
[000:29:10;878] WE TALKED ON THE PHONE EVEN MORE
[000:29:12;180] AFTER I LEFT Tç: WHI HOUSE,
[000:29:14;916] AND THAT WAS WHERE A LOT OF THE
[000:29:17;051] RELATIONSHIP DEEPENED.
[000:29:17;885] I WOULD GO TO THE PUBLIC EVENTS
[000:29:19;987] TO SEE HIM BECAUSE THAT WAS THE
[000:29:21;422] ONLY PLACE I COULD SEE HIM.
[000:29:22;656] NOT SAY
[000:29:27;494] THAT THAT WAS AN ISSUE OF HIM
[000:29:29;830] WANTING TO GET RID OF ME AND I
[000:29:31;398] WOULDN'T LEAVE HIM ALONE.
[000:29:32;600] AFTER ALL, HE WAS THE ONE WHO
[000:29:35;168] HAD TO PICK UP THE PHONE AND
[000:29:36;169] CALL ME.
[000:29:36;637] I HAD NO WAY TO GET IN TOUCH
[000:29:38;272] WITH HIM THEN.
[000:29:39;106] I CODN SEND HIM A LETTER OR
[000:29:40;474] CALL HIM.
[000:29:41;408] >> LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE
[000:29:42;109] PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
[000:29:47;047] >> NOVEMBER 6, 1996, THE DAY
[000:29:50;351] AFTER BILL CLINTON WAS
[000:29:52;286] RE-ELECTED.
[000:29:52;720] A WELCOME HOME CEREMONY FOR
[000:29:54;521] THEIR TRIUMPHANT PRESIDENT AND
[000:29:56;823] VICE PRESIDENT ON THE SOUTH LAWN
[000:29:57;924] OF THE WHITE HOUSE.
[000:29:59;760] POLITICAL APPOINTEES LIKE MONICA
[000:30:01;928] LEWINSKY WERE INVITED.
[000:30:04;798] YOU'VE SEEN THIS PICTURE BEFORE,
[000:30:06;566] BUT THIS WAS A BIG DAY FOR
[000:30:08;601] MONICA.
[000:30:09;035] SHE WAS SURE THAT THE PRESIDENT
[000:30:10;670] WOULD MAKE GOOD ON HIS
[000:30:13;907] PRE-ELECTION PROMISE, THAT HE
[000:30:15;742] WOULD CALL AND ASK HER BACK TO
[000:30:17;010] THE WHITE HOUSE.
[000:30:17;610] SHE SATLL NIG.
[000:30:18;879] THS PNEALó
[000:30:21;581] >> IT WAS DEVASTATING
[000:30:23;316] ATING FOR ME.
[000:30:24;084] Y THAN'TE,
[000:30:25;318] 
[000:30:27;854] YO HEAR FROM SOMEONE FOR MOHS
[000:30:29;555] D MONTHS AND ALL YE
[000:30:30;991] áLL CAN HOLD Y AGAIN,n I
[000:30:34;693] CAN'T WAIT TILL I CAN KISS YOU
[000:30:36;162] I'M GOING TO BRING YOU BAC
[000:30:38;831] ATEVER Y WAÑ AND I WAS
[000:30:40;933] YOUNG.
[000:30:41;267] AT THIS POINT, I WAS 23.
[000:30:42;935] AND I'M NOT A PATIENT PERSON.
[000:30:45;437] SO IT WAS DIFFICULT.
[000:30:48;841] >> DID YOU FEEL THAT BILL
[000:30:50;009] CLINTON WAS IN LOVE WITH YOU?
[000:30:52;511] >> THERE WERE TIMES I DID.
[000:30:53;846] >> WHAT MADE YOU FEEL THAT WAY?
[000:30:57;082] >> IT WAS THE WAY HE ED AT
[000:30:58;684] ME A THE WAYEELD ME AND
[000:31:00;752] THE WAY HE7 TOUCHEDl!E.÷;
[000:31:06;792] I THINK YOU FEEL THAT WARMTH
[000:31:08;460] WITH SOMEONE.
[000:31:08;928] SAY TO THAT MADE YO FEELHE
[000:31:12;096] THIS WAS NOT JUST SEX?
[000:31:14;899] >> FIRST OF ALL, I THINK ONE OF
[000:31:16;067] THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE HAVE NOT
[000:31:19;504] BEEN ABLE TO LOOK AT IN THIS
[000:31:22;040] PAST YEAR IS IF THEY LOOKED AT
[000:31:23;308] THIS AND SAID, THIS IS ABOUT A
[000:31:24;776] MAN AND A WND NOT THE
[000:31:26;911] PRESIDENT AND THE INTERN.
[000:31:28;513] HE WASVERY TENDER WITH ME, HE
[000:31:31;483] WAS VERY AFFECTIONATE.
[000:31:32;917] >> YOU SAY THAT YOU CRIED AND
[000:31:36;287] THE PRESIDENT CRIED.
[000:31:38;790] WHEN DID THE PRESIDENT CRY?
[000:31:41;226] >> I KNOW PEOPLE MAKE FUN OF HIM
[000:31:43;161] R HAVING SAID, I FEEL YOUR
[000:31:44;563] PAIN.
[000:31:44;963] BUT I THINK HE GENUINELY MEANS
[000:31:49;734] IT.
[000:31:50;067] THeTIME THo I REMEMBERçg
[000:31:51;435] WAWHE TALKED ABOUT THE
[000:31:53;704]  LOSS OF THEx/ AMERICAN
[000:31:55;606] SOLDIE INoó BOSNIA, AND HOW
[000:31:58;942] RESPONSIBLE HE FELT FOR THAT.
[000:32:01;612] THERE WAS THE TIME WHEN I ASKED
[000:32:03;914] HIO CRIFY E RELATIONSHIP,
[000:32:06;149] WHETHER IT WAS, YOUNOW, ONL
[000:32:08;085] FOR6 SEXL;#@ R(n OR NOTY
[000:32:11;154] ON.
[000:32:11;655] HE GOTPSET AT THE NOTION THAT
[000:32:13;123] I MIGHT EVEN THINK THAT ANDTES .
[000:32:17;728] HE CRIED WHEN HE BROKE UP WITH
[000:32:18;462] ME ON MAY 24th.
[000:32:19;129] IT WAS AN INTENSE RELATIONSHIP,
[000:32:21;031] AT LEAST THAT WAS HOW I ST.
[000:32:24;234] >> WHY DO YOU THINK HE NEEDED
[000:32:25;936] YOU?
[000:32:26;370] >> I WOULD IMAGINET IT IS
[000:32:28;505] RY DCULT T:í BE THE
[000:32:30;140] PRIDEN THE UNITED STATES.
[000:32:31;674] I WOULD IMAGINE THAT YOU HAVE A
[000:32:34;811] TMENDS AMOUNT O
[000:32:36;313] PRESSURE.
[000:32:38;181] AND THAT SOMETIMES YOU JUST NEED
[000:32:45;188] A PIECE OF NORMALCY.
[000:32:49;426] >> CAN'T YOU GET O FROM YOUR
[000:32:50;794] WIFE?
[000:32:53;496] >>URYON.ó,
[000:32:55;998] BUT
[000:33:07;009] >> TT'S SOMETHING FO
[000:33:08;110] ANSW, NOT ME.
[000:33:08;611] I'M SORRY.
[000:33:14;150] >> AS IT TURNS OUT, BILL CLINTON
[000:33:16;018] WAS NOT MONICA'S ONLY
[000:33:17;954] RELATIONSHIP DURING THIS PERIOD.
[000:33:20;122] AND THERE IS A STARTLING
[000:33:21;791] REVELATION THAT SHE HAS KEPT
[000:33:23;125] SECRET ALL THIS TIME.
[000:33:24;727] WE WILL HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT
[000:33:25;962] WHEN WE COME BACK.
[000:33:28;598] THERE S A TEN-MONTH PERIOD
[000:33:31;000] WHEN YOU NEVER HAD THE CHANCEO
[000:33:32;868] BE ANEH BILL CLINTON.
[000:33:36;605] BUT YOU DID HAVE ANOTHER MAN IN
[000:33:38;240] YOUR LIFE.
[000:33:39;842] o
[000:34:19;514] BEAUTY HAS MANY FACES,
[000:34:21;016] 0ONE THING IN COMMON.
[000:34:23;284] Ñ
[000:34:23;284] 5 TO 1...
[000:34:23;284] DOsh98%=E BAORS RECOMMEND
[000:34:27;022] ER ANY OTH CLEAN? HAS/4
[000:34:27;022] MOTU LOTIO..f
[000:34:57;184] >> Announcer: NOW THAT IT'S
[000:34:58;819] OVER --
[000:34:59;186] >> DO YOU THINK HE HAS ANY
[000:35:01;088] GENUINE REMORSE?
[000:35:01;956] DO YOU THINK HE'S JUST SOR
[000:35:03;257] THAT HE GOT UGHT?;
[000:35:05;392] >> WHEN I THINK OF THE PERSON
[000:35:09;096] THAT I THOUGHT WAS BILdÑ CLINTO,
[000:35:10;630] I THINK HE HAS GENUINE REMORSE.
[000:35:13;700] WHEN IHIW OFHE/ PSONo THA
[000:35:17;637] NOW SEE AS 100% POLITICIAN, I
[000:35:21;675] THINK HE'S SORRY HE GOT CAUGHT.
[000:35:25;379] >> Announcer: "20/20" CONTINUES
[000:35:26;146] AFTER THIS.
[000:35:27;247] ?ó?>gó
[000:36:53;497] >> Announcer: "20/20" CONTINUES.
[000:36:55;232] AND NOW, BARBARA WALTERS.
[000:36:59;370] >> THE BIG QUESTIONS REMAIN.
[000:37:02;105] WHY DID MONICA LEWINSKY EVER
[000:37:04;475] COE IN LINDA TRIPP?
[000:37:06;310] WHY DIDN'T MONICA'S MOTHER TRY
[000:37:07;978] TO BREAK UP HER DAUGHTER'S
[000:37:10;648] RELATIONSHIP WITH BILL CLINTON?
[000:37:11;415] AND WHY DID MONICA CONTINUE TO
[000:37:12;883] STAY IN THE RELATIONSHIP WHEN
[000:37:14;385] THE PRESIDENT DIDN'T SEEM TO
[000:37:15;386] WANT HER?
[000:37:16;887] ALL IN ALL, IT WAS GETTING TO BE
[000:37:18;656] A DIFFICULT TIME FOR MONICA.
[000:37:20;257] AND FOR THE FIRST TIME TONIGHT
[000:37:21;925] YOU WILL HEAR ASTARTLIN
[000:37:24;461] REVELATION, ONE OF THE FEW
[000:37:26;129] SECRETS MONICA HAS BEEN ABLE TO
[000:37:27;531] KEEP, UNTIL NOW.
[000:37:32;268] NOW, WHEN YOU'RE AT THE PENTAGON
[000:37:33;770] THERE WAS A TEN-MONTH PERIOD
[000:37:36;606] WHEN YOU NEVER HAD THE CHANCE TO
[000:37:38;374] BE ALONE WITH BILL CLINTON.[
[000:37:42;179] ñT YOU DID HAVE ANOTHER MAN IN
[000:37:43;379] YOUR LIFE.
[000:37:45;716] YES?
[000:37:47;450] YOU E-MAILED A FRIEND THAT YOU
[000:37:48;885] HAD A SEXUAL RELATIONSHIP WITH
[000:37:50;653] AN OLDER SINGLE MAN NAMED THOMAS
[000:37:53;590] WHO WORKED AT THE PENTAGON.Cm
[000:37:55;658] HOW DID FEEoññBO THOMAS?
[000:37:57;360] THOUGHT HE WAS BRILLIANT, I
[000:38:05;168] EXCITING MAN AND I ENJOYED HIS
[000:38:07;870] COANY, AND I -- I HAD FEELINGS
[000:38:11;173] FOR HIM, BUT NOT VERY STRONG
[000:38:12;141] FEELINGS.
[000:38:13;843] >> DID THE PRESINT KNOW THAT
[000:38:14;944] YOU WERE SEEING OTHER MEN?
[000:38:15;611] >> YES.
[000:38:17;546] I WOULD TEASE HIM ABOUT IT AND
[000:38:19;081] TELL HIM HE HAD COMPETITI.
[000:38:20;482] >> THERES A REVELATION IN THE
[000:38:22;251] THISn TMAó;3HAT CONCES
[000:38:27;223] w JUST -- I THINK IT'Sgíw AY
[000:38:34;230] SENSECT R AT OF
[000:38:36;198] UTTONó FOR PEOPLE THAT --CH A
[000:38:41;369] >> MONICA WAS CLEARLY
[000:38:43;504] UNCOMFORTABLE DISCUSSING THE
[000:38:44;438] SUBJECT DURING OUR INTERVIEW,
[000:38:45;439] BUT IN THE ANDREW MORTON BOOK,
[000:38:48;042] "MONICA'S STORY," SHE REVEALS
[000:38:49;510] THAT DURING HER AFFAIR WITH
[000:38:50;945] THOMAS, SHE BECAME PREGNANT.
[000:38:52;346] SHE HAD AN ABORTION.
[000:38:53;681] AND IT SO UPSET HER, THAT SHE
[000:38:54;949] BEGAN THERAPY.
[000:38:57;451] STILL IN LOVE WITH BILL CLINTON,
[000:38:59;053] SHE SAYS, SHE NEVER TOLD HIM
[000:39:00;321] ABOUT THE PREGNANCY.
[000:39:02;690] AT THE BEST OF TIMES, YOU WOULD
[000:39:04;759] SEE BILL CLINTON FOR BRIEF
[000:39:08;496] ENCOUNTERS.
[000:39:09;397] WES, TIME MTHSzD
[000:39:11;132] GO BY THOUT YOUR SEEING HIM.
[000:39:13;567] TWICE HE TRIED TO BREAK UP WITH
[000:39:15;135] YOU.
[000:39:17;838] WAY, WHY DIDN'T YOU WALK AWAY?
[000:39:22;109] >> I[TED TO LOT O TIMES.
[000:39:25;045] >> WHERE WAS YOUR SELF-RESPECT?
[000:39:27;348] WHERE WAS YOUR SELESEM?óloçç:-
[000:39:30;150] >> I DON'T HAVE THE FEELINGS OF
[000:39:35;889] SELF-WORTH THAT A WOMAN SHOULD
[000:39:40;027] HAVE, AND THAT'S HARD FOR ME.
[000:39:41;962] AND I THINK THAT'S BEEN A CENTER
[000:39:44;832] OF A LOT OF MY MISTAS AND A
[000:39:48;436] LOT OF MY PAIN.
[000:39:51;237] >> WHEN THE LINDA TRIPP TAPES
[000:39:53;473] WERE RELEASED, THERE WAS ONE IN
[000:39:55;475] WHICH YOU WERE SOBBING
[000:39:57;109] UNCONTROLLABLY.
[000:39:59;111] I'LL LET YOU LISTEN TO IT.
[000:40:02;281] >> I WAS UPSET.
[000:40:05;318] LINDA, I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE.
[000:40:07;354] >> I KNOW, I KNOW.
[000:40:09;756] >> I JUST CAN'T.
[000:40:10;523] I JUST CAN'T.
[000:40:12;392] >> OH, MY GOD.
[000:40:17;497] >> IT'S TOO MUCH FOR ON PERSON.
[000:40:20;099] >> OH, IT IS TOO MUCH FOR ONE
[000:40:21;634] PERSON, YES, IT IS.
[000:40:28;140] >> DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT MADE YOU
[000:40:29;141] FEEL THAT WAY??
[000:40:38;584] >> Iñ THINK IT WAS A TIME WHEN-
[000:40:44;090] WHEN I W VERY FRUSTTED WITH
[000:40:46;058] THE PRESIDENT AND WITH BETTY
[000:40:49;495] CURRIE.
[000:40:53;366] >> TOUGH DAYS.
[000:40:56;035] DURING THIS TIME, MONICA BEGAN
[000:40:57;770] TO CONFIDE IN A PENTAGON
[000:40:59;905] CO-WORKER, LINDA TRIPP, WHO HAD
[000:41:02;775] ALSO PREVIOUSLY WORKED AT THE
[000:41:03;942] WHITE HOUSE.
[000:41:05;043] TRIPP WAS FLOWN TO GOSSIP ABOUT
[000:41:06;712] THE PRESIDENT AND ABOUT GOINGS
[000:41:08;847] ON AT THE WHITE HOUSE.
[000:41:09;715] HOW DID IT COME ABOUT IN THE
[000:41:11;216] FIRSTHAT YOU BEGAN TO
[000:41:13;251] >> THISSCTLL SOMETHING
[000:41:17;188] TH I'T THINK PEOPLE HAVE
[000:41:19;691] REALLYç UNRSTO I THIAST
[000:41:21;560] YEAR A÷S RTT TO
[000:41:22;628] UNTANDAT.
[000:41:25;163] I HAD MET LINDA TRIPP FROM
[000:41:28;834] WORKINx PENTAGON.
[000:41:31;536] I THINK WHEN I FOUND O+9W]÷ THT
[000:41:33;405] =HA AT E WHITE
[000:41:34;505] USE, IT WAS SOR OF -- THAT
[000:41:36;174] WAS AN ATTRACTION FOR ME.
[000:41:37;909] THAT WAS CLEARLY WHERE ItAS
[000:41:39;444] NGINTO BE.é
[000:41:41;779] AND WAS HOPING AND THINKING I
[000:41:43;148] WAS GOING TO GO BACK TO.?&
[000:41:48;186] SHE WOULD SAY THINGS TO ME LIKE,
[000:41:50;989] OH, YOU'RE JUSTTHE TYPE OF GIRL
[000:41:52;324] ÑmócTHIDE.ç
[000:41:53;325] AND YOU SHOULD THINK ABOUT GOING
[000:41:55;360] BACK TO THE WHITE HOUSE.
[000:41:56;428] I BET YOU COULD HAVE AN AFFAIR
[000:41:57;996] WITH HIM.
[000:41:58;463] IT WAS AFTER THE ELECTION, AND I
[000:42:02;133] SAW HER IN THE2IA,D= I
[000:42:05;437] GHT, OH, GOD, IF SHE SAYS TO
[000:42:09;540] ME ONE MORETIME NOWAN?L,4E
[000:42:13;911] ELECTION'S OVER.
[000:42:14;411] THIS IS IT.
[000:42:14;979] THIS IS YOUR TIME.
[000:42:16;080] HERE I AMçwI A DYING INSIDE
[000:42:19;383] FROM THE LOSS OF THE
[000:42:21;686] RELATIONSHIP AND FINALLY I SAID,
[000:42:23;921] LOOK, I HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH
[000:42:26;023] HIM AND IT'S OVER.
[000:42:27;758] SO YOU DON'T NEED TO BE THINKING
[000:42:29;627] THIS IS GOIN HAPPEN AIN.
[000:42:30;962] >> AND THE FLOODGATES OPENED
[000:42:33;364] FROM THEN ON?
[000:42:33;831] >> YES.
[000:42:36;233] >> HAD ALSO TOL OTHER
[000:42:37;502] PEOPLE.
[000:42:37;869] YOU TOLD TEN OTHER PEOPLE THAT
[000:42:39;236] YOU HAD THIS RELATIONSHIP WITH
[000:42:40;904] THE PRESI
[000:42:42;939] WHY DID YOU WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW?
[000:42:45;509] >> I TRUSTED MY GIRLFRI+
[000:42:48;478] IMPLICITLY.
[000:42:49;012] AND I THINKTHAT'S THD OF
[000:42:55;585] RELATIONSHIP THAT I HAVE WITH MY
[000:42:57;387] CLOSE FRIENDS.
[000:42:58;454] I MEAN, AND I GUESS PROBABLY THE
[000:43:00;356] BIGGEST PIECE OF EVIDENCE THAT I
[000:43:01;625] LOOKED AT BILL CLINTON AS MORE
[000:43:02;859] OF A MAN THAN AS A PRESIDENT WAS
[000:43:04;694] THAT I TALKED ABOUT HIM I
[000:43:06;596] ULD ANY OTHER GUY.
[000:43:08;097] LISTEN TO THE MESSAGE HE LEFT.
[000:43:09;533] HE'S SO CUTE.
[000:43:10;166] THIS IS WHAT HE DID.
[000:43:11;501] THIS ISWH@=
[000:43:14;203] WHAT SHOULD I WEAR?
[000:43:14;771] >> DID YOU EVER TELL THE
[000:43:15;405] PRESIDENT THAT YOU TOLD OTHER
[000:43:16;305] PEOPLE?
[000:43:16;705] >> NO.
[000:43:17;473] IN FACo,éço THE OPPOSITE.
[000:43:19;275] I TOLD HIM THAT I DIDN'T TELL
[000:43:20;043] ANYBODY.
[000:43:21;744] >> BUT MONICA'S MOTHER WAS ALSO
[000:43:23;479] IN ON THE SECRET.
[000:43:24;747] AND WAS WORRI ABOUT HER
[000:43:26;215] DAUGHTER'S FRAGILE STATE OF
[000:43:26;916] MIND.
[000:43:28;918] TO THIS DAY, THEY HAVE A VERY
[000:43:30;553] CLOSE ANDOVG RELATIONSHIP.
[000:43:32;422] BUT WHAT IS NOT CLEAR IS HOW
[000:43:34;190] MUCH THE MOTHER ACTUALLY KNEWw
[000:43:35;958] ABOUT HER DGHTER'SAIR WH
[000:43:37;693] THE ESIDENT.
[000:43:38;794] >> MY MOM KNEW THAT I WAS
[000:43:43;799] INVOLV WITH HIM NOT I THINK
[000:43:49;204] CESSARILY -- I DON'T THINK SHE
[000:43:50;272] UNDERSTOOD IT TO BE IN SUCH A
[000:43:51;707] SEXUAL WAY THAT IT WAS.
[000:43:52;741] I CLEARLY DID NOT DISCUSS
[000:43:55;578] TAILS OF THAT RELATIONSHIP
[000:43:56;712] WITH MY MOM.
[000:43:57;980] WE HAVE AN AMAZING RELATIONSHIP,
[000:44:00;482] AND SHE IS -- SHE HAS BEEN
[000:44:05;287] ED ALMOST WORSE THAN I
[000:44:06;388] HAVE IN SO1
[000:44:09;191] AND IT HAS BEEN VERY PAINFUL FOR
[000:44:10;559] ME.
[000:44:16;164] SHE IS A VERY WONDERFUL MOM AND
[000:44:18;901] AOO WOMAN AND I THINK ANYBODY
[000:44:23;872] WHO WATCHES THIS INTERVI AND,
[000:44:28;510] MONICA'S DIFFERENT FHOW
[000:44:29;311] SHE'S BEEN PORTRAYED FOR A YEAR,
[000:44:31;480] LL SAME G=MYOM.
[000:44:34;716] >> I KNOW IT'S VERY HARD FOR
[000:44:36;585] MOTHER TO SAY TO A DAUGHTER, YOU
[000:44:38;386] CAN'T DO THIS.
[000:44:39;421] BUT DID YOUR MOTHER TRY TO BREAK
[000:44:41;356] OFF THIS RELATIONSHIP WITH-
[000:44:42;491] >> YES.y
[000:44:44;692] SHE DI
[000:44:47;462] BUT ANYONE WHO KNOWS  WELLZs
[000:44:50;432] SHE DI I'M
[000:44:55;870] THE TIME I WAS TWO YEARS OLD,
[000:44:57;839] ONE OF MY FIRST PHRASES WAS WITH
[000:45:00;108] MY HANDS ON MY HI, YOU AOT
[000:45:05;212] AND I'VE BEEN THAT WAY EVER
[000:45:05;913] SINCE.
[000:45:09;717] >> WHEN WE COME BACK, THE
[000:45:12;086] INFAMOUS BLUE DRESS, THE ITEM
[000:45:14;388] THAT FINALLY PROVED TO THE WORLD
[000:45:15;923] THAT BILL CLINTON AND MONICA
[000:45:18;192] LEWINSKY INDEED HAD AN INTIMATE
[000:45:19;360] RELATIONSHIP.
[000:45:21;562] WHY DID MONICA KEEP IT?
[000:45:24;398] WHAT MANY PEOPLE NDSGUSTING
[000:45:28;169] IS YOU DID JUST TAKE THIS DRESS
[000:45:30;104] AND SEND IT OUT TO BE DRY
[000:45:31;673] CLEANED.Xó
[000:45:59;733] >>> THERE HAVE PROBABLY BEEN
[000:46:01;201] MORE QUESTIONS ASKED ABOUT THE
[000:46:03;303] NOW INFAMOUS STAINED BLUE DRESS
[000:46:05;971] THAN ABOUT ALMOST ANY OTHER
[000:46:07;339] ASPECT OF MONICA AND THE
[000:46:09;241] PRESIDENT'S AFFAIR.
[000:46:09;875] WITHOUT THIS DRESS, THERE MIGHT
[000:46:11;577] NEVER HAVE BEEN PROOF THAT THERE
[000:46:12;812] EVEN WAS AN AFFAIR.
[000:46:14;947] BUT WHY DID MONICA KEEP THE
[000:46:16;682] DRESS IN THE FIRST PLACE?
[000:46:18;217] DID SHE CONSIDER IT A SOUVENIR
[000:46:20;419] OF HER LOVE?
[000:46:21;787] AND WHY ON EARTH DID SHE CONFIDE
[000:46:24;757] IN LINDA TRIPP?
[000:46:25;791] THE ANSWERS NOW FROM MONICA,
[000:46:28;227] HER OWN WORDS.
[000:46:31;163] THE FAMOUS BLUE DRESS.
[000:46:32;664] >> WHAT ESS?oN
[000:46:35;868] >> THAT NOW FAMOUS BLUE DRESS.
[000:46:38;503] RUR 2, 1997, BETTY
[000:46:43;441] CURRIE CALLED AND INVITED MONICA
[000:46:44;909] TO ATTEND THE PRESIDENT'S RADIO
[000:46:46;077] ADDRESS AT THE WHITE HOUSE.
[000:46:47;846] MONICA RAN HOME TO HER WATERGATE
[000:46:49;480] APARTMENT AND PUT ON A BLUE
[000:46:50;648] DRESS FROM THE GA5
[000:46:51;682] AN THEN AFTER THE ADDRESS AND
[000:46:53;551] FOR THE FIRST TIME IN TEN MONTHS
[000:46:55;319] SHE WAS ALONE WITH BILL CLINTON
[000:46:56;755] IN THE OVAL OFFICE.
[000:46:58;656] THIS WAS THE MOST INTIMATE OF
[000:47:00;424] THEIR MEETINGS.
[000:47:01;525] ON THIS OCCASION, THEY WENT
[000:47:03;762] FURTHER TH EVER BEFORE.
[000:47:05;130] AND LEWINSKY'S DRESS BECAME
[000:47:06;731] STAINED IN THE PROCESS.
[000:47:08;800] MONICA SAYS SHE WENT HOME THAT
[000:47:10;701] AFTERNOON, PUT THE DRESS AWAY
[000:47:12;270] AND NEVER NOTICED THE STAINS
[000:47:14;139] UNTIL THE NEXT TIME SHE THOHT
[000:47:15;373] OF WEARING IT.
[000:47:17;608] WHAT DID YOU THINK THE STAINS
[000:47:18;342] WERE?
[000:47:19;810] >> AT FIRST I DIDN'T KNOW.
[000:47:21;245] AND I THOUGHT, OH, THIS IS
[000:47:22;880] DIRTY.
[000:47:23;381] THAT'S WEIRD.
[000:47:23;847] THEN IT CAME TO MY MIND THAT THE
[000:47:25;283] LAST TIME I HAD WORN IT WAS WHEN
[000:47:27;017] I WAS WITHHE PRESIDENT.
[000:47:29;920] AND I THOUGHT, OH, OH, NO.d
[000:47:34;858] IT WAS FUNNY TO ME.
[000:47:39;397] THE WHOLE SUBJECT O THE DRESS
[000:47:41;064] HAS BEEN ONE OF THOSE TOPICS
[000:47:43;501] THIS PAST YEAR THAT I KNOW IS --
[000:47:46;937] IT'S A LOT MORE FUN TO THINK
[000:47:48;306] THAT I KEPT IT AS A SOUVENIR, TO
[000:47:51;174] THINK THAT I CHERISHED THIS AND
[000:47:54;110] I WOULD NEVER CLEAN IT AND I WAS
[000:47:55;679] SICK DERANGED PERSON WHO KEPT
[000:47:57;146] THIS AS A TROPHY, BUT THAT'S NOT
[000:47:59;115] WHAT IT WAS.
[000:47:59;683] >> WHAT MANY PEOPLE FIND
[000:48:03;453] DISGUSTI IS THAT YOU DIDN'T
[000:48:04;187] JUST TAKE THIS DRESS AND SEND IT
[000:48:05;555] OUT TO BE DRY CLEANED.
[000:48:07;190] >> WHAT HAPPENED WAS I HAVE A
[000:48:08;925] LOOF CLOTHES.
[000:48:11;661] AND THE NEXT TIME WHEN I HAD
[000:48:12;962] GONE TO PUT ON THIS DRESS, WHEN
[000:48:14;631] I BELIEVE IT WAS THE TIME THAT I
[000:48:15;998] NOTICED IT WAS SOILED, IT DIDN'T
[000:48:18;067] FIT.
[000:48:18;368] I GAINED WEIGHT.
[000:48:19;703] SO IT WAS SORT OF THIS
[000:48:21;638] FRUSTRATION, OH, THIS THING
[000:48:23;005] DOESN'T FIT ANYWAY, THREW IT IN
[000:48:24;874] THE CLOSET.
[000:48:25;508] IT WAS FUNNY.
[000:48:26;608] I HAD MENTIONED ITO MY
[000:48:28;777] GIRLFRIENDS.
[000:48:29;212] WE LAUGHED ABOUT IT.
[000:48:30;112] WITH ONE I EVEN JOKED, GEE,
[000:48:33;282] MAYBE HE'LL PAY FOR THE DRY
[000:48:34;083] CLEANING.
[000:48:34;483] >> NEVER NOUT THAT THIS WAS
[000:48:35;852] SOMETHING THAT WAS SERIOUS OR
[000:48:37;486] INCRIMINATING?
[000:48:37;954] >> OF COURSE NOT.
[000:48:38;721] IT WAS NEVER ANISSUE.
[000:48:40;056] I WAS NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT
[000:48:41;657] THIS RELATIONSHIP.
[000:48:42;258] >> WHY DID YOU TELL LINDA TRIPP
[000:48:43;726] ABOUT THIS DRESS?
[000:48:44;626] >> BECAUSE IWAS FUNNY.
[000:48:46;295] IT WAS FUNNY.
[000:48:48;130] >> AND THEN SHE TOLD YOU, SAVE
[000:48:50;032] THISRESS.
[000:48:50;466] >> Y
[000:48:50;799] >>ISN TS TAPE.ó
[000:48:53;402] >> I JUST -- I DON'T TRUST THE
[000:48:54;971] PEOPLE AROUND HIM AND I JUST
[000:48:56;372] WANT TO H THATOR YOU
[000:48:58;241] PUT IT IN A BAGGY, PUT IT IN A
[000:49:00;876] ZIP-LOCK BAG.
[000:49:01;343] >> WHAT FOR, THOUGH?
[000:49:02;344] >> I'TNOWj, MONIo÷
[000:49:04;112] JUST THIS NAGGING, AWFUL FEELING
[000:49:06;281] I HAVE IN THE BACK OF MY HEAD.
[000:49:07;515] >> SO MONICA DID SAVE THE DRESS.
[000:49:09;317] AND THIS IS ONE SECRET SHE SAYS
[000:49:11;119] SHE KEPT, EVEN FROM HER MOTHER.
[000:49:14;055] UNTIL LINDA TRIPP TOLD
[000:49:16;291] PROSECUTORS ABOUT IT.
[000:49:16;892] ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT
[000:49:18;159] PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND IS YOU
[000:49:20;262] GAVE THE DRESS TO YOUR MOTHER.
[000:49:22;130] WHAT KIND OF A WOMAN SAVES A
[000:49:24;532] DRESS?
[000:49:27;402] >> THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF
[000:49:30;405] THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SAI ABOUT
[000:49:34;809] ME, MY MOTHER AND MY FAMILY THAT
[000:49:36;711] ARE NOT TRUE.
[000:49:38;312] D THAT I ONEF THEM.
[000:49:39;580] MY MOM DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THIS
[000:49:41;849] DRESS UN REST OF THE
[000:49:44;251] WOSTARD OF TH DRESS.
[000:49:45;853] AND IT WAS, I THINK, A FEW WEEKS
[000:49:48;523] THISñVz NIGRE=Fé
[000:49:50;491] T TV AND# T ME
[000:49:53;561] AND SHE SAID, WHAT IS THIS ABOUT
[000:49:54;829] THIS DRESS?
[000:49:55;430] IS THIS ONE O THESE CRA
[000:49:56;898] ñINGS TvEY KE TALKING
[000:49:57;998] ABOUT?
[000:49:58;332] AND I LOOKED AT HER AND I SAID,
[000:50:01;769] WE -ANDHE SAI, ERE IS
[000:50:03;438] IT?
[000:50:04;639] AND I SAID, IN YOUR APARTMENT IN
[000:50:06;173] NEW YORK.
[000:50:08;476] AND SHE JUST OKEDT ME.
[000:50:12;011] AND WE WERE BOTH SO PARALYZED
[000:50:13;279] o FR.?
[000:50:15;014] I DIDN'T HAVE IMMUNITY YET,
[000:50:18;051] AND I WASo5RIFIED THE< WAY I
[000:50:22;589] WAS BEIN WATCHED, HOW
[000:50:25;459] BENdi MONITORE, I DIDN'T K.
[000:50:28;695] I THOUGHT, I COU WASH THIS I
[000:50:31;798] COULD DESTROTH.wRI KNEWT THAT PW
[000:50:34;334] THAT WAS OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE,
[000:50:36;336] AND I WAS IN ENOUGH TROUBLE
[000:50:37;203] ALREADY.
[000:50:39;439] >> KEN STARR'S PEOPLE DIDN'T
[000:50:40;574] KNOW YOU HAD THIS DRESS.
[000:50:43;477] WHY DID YOU TURN IT OVER TO
[000:50:46;112] THEM?
[000:50:46;446] >> BECAUSE I HAD TO.
[000:50:47;580] GETTING AND KEEPING MUNITY÷r
[000:50:50;350] BECAME VERY IMPORTANT TO ME.
[000:50:51;484] I NEEDED TO TAKE CARE OF MYSELF
[000:50:52;751] AND MY FAMILY.
[000:50:54;120] NO ONE ELSE WAS WORRIED ABOUT
[000:50:55;488] ME.
[000:50:55;888] >> DID YOU FEEL YOU HAD TON
[000:50:57;457] TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT ABSOLUTELY
[000:50:58;757] EVERYTHING, INCLUDING THIS
[000:50:59;492] DRESS?
[000:50:59;825] >> YOU BET.
[000:51:00;693] AND I DID.
[000:51:03;662] >> IF IT HAD NOT BEEN FOR THE
[000:51:05;698] DNA EVIDENCE, THE PRESIDENT
[000:51:07;133] TIONSHIP WITH YOU.DMITTED HIS
[000:51:10;636] LINDA TRIPP NOW SAYS SHE DID YOU
[000:51:11;737] A FAVOR.ó
[000:51:17;943] >> IF THERE'S WAS A PARADE AND I
[000:51:20;045] SAID TO YOU, MS. WALTER, COME
[000:51:22;247] STAND HERE.
[000:51:23;081] FOR THE BEST VIEW OF THIS
[000:51:25;484] PARADE.
[000:51:25;851] AND I PLANNED ACTUALLY SECRETLY
[000:51:28;554] TO PUSH A PIANO OUT OF THE
[000:51:30;489] WINDOW TO FALL ON YOUR HEAD.
[000:51:32;124] AND THEN AT THE LAST MINUTE I
[000:51:33;726] PULLED YOU OUT OF THE WAY SO
[000:51:35;093] THAT THE PIANO DIDN'T HIT YOU
[000:51:36;729] AND THEN SAID, I SAVED YOUR
[000:51:38;230] LIFE.
[000:51:38;964] IT'S RIDICULOUS.
[000:51:39;832] IT'S LUDICROUS.
[000:51:42;234] THIS DRESS IS ONE OF THEST
[000:51:44;269] HUMILIATING THINGS THAT HAS
[000:51:45;571] HAPPENED TO ME.
[000:51:47;573] EVERY MAN THAT I HAVE MET SINCE
[000:51:49;341] THIS THING HAS HAPPENED
[000:51:50;976] EVENTUALLY SAYS TO ME, SO WHAT'S
[000:51:53;045] THE REAL STORY WITH THE DRESS?
[000:51:55;580] AND IT'S HUMILIATING.
[000:51:57;015] I WISH I HADN'T HAD IT.
[000:52:01;453] >> WILL THIS DRESS BE RETURNED
[000:52:02;820] TO YOU?
[000:52:03;755] >> I DON'T KNOW.
[000:52:04;923] >> IEñ IS TURNED OVER TO YOU
[000:52:07;659] AS YOUR PROPERTY, WHAT LU DO
[000:52:08;826] WITH IT?
[000:52:09;194] >> I'LL BURN IT.
[000:52:11;029] >> WHEN WE COME BACK, WHAT
[000:52:12;764] MONICA CALLS D-DAY.
[000:52:15;067] THE PRESIDENT TELLS MONA THAT
[000:52:18;002] THE RELATIONSHIP IS OVER.
[000:52:18;937] WHAT DID HE SAY AND HOW DID SHE
[000:52:19;971] HANDLE IT?
[000:52:22;707] YOU WOULD SCREAM AT HIM
[000:52:23;875] SOMETIMES OVER THE PHONE.
[000:52:25;343] I MEAN, YOU WOULD SCREAM AT HIM
[000:52:26;778] IN PERSON.
[000:52:28;279] YOU WOULD THREATEN HIM, THE
[000:52:30;481] PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
[000:52:34;085] 
[000:54:43;177] >>OT HAVE SEXUAL
[000:54:44;878] RELATIONS WITH THAT WOMAN,
[000:54:46;413] MS. LEWINSKY.
[000:54:46;880] >> THAT WOMAN, O+LEWINS.?eK
[000:54:49;149] AT WAS YOUR REACTION WHEN YOU
[000:54:51;018] SAW THIS?
[000:54:51;685] >> THAT WOMAN PART OF THE QUOTE
[000:54:53;320] WAS SO VERY HARSH.
[000:54:56;023] AND IT WAS HURTFUL.
[000:54:57;958] >> Announcer: MORE OF MONICA
[000:55:00;694] LEWINSKY WHEN "20/20" CONTINUES.
[000:55:02;362] T@
[000:56:44;696] >> Announcer:.
[000:56:46;664] ONCE AGAIN, BARBARA WALTERS.
[000:56:50;869] >> WE RETURN NOW TO MONICA
[000:56:53;905] LEWINSKY, IN HER OWN WORDS.
[000:56:56;607] HAD BEGUN AS A RELATIONSHIP OF
[000:56:58;909] INTIMATE ENCOUNTERS AND AMOROUS
[000:57:00;978] PHONE CALLS WAS NOW TURNING
[000:57:02;313] SOUR.
[000:57:02;647] THE PRESIDENT, IT SEEMS, WAS
[000:57:04;281] TRYING TO FIND A WAY OUT.
[000:57:05;650] YOU WILL HEAR AN AMAZING
[000:57:07;585] ADMISSION MONICA SAYS SHE MADE
[000:57:08;853] TO HER ABOUT HIS MARRIAGE.
[000:57:10;221] AND YOU WILL LEARN NOW HOW THE
[000:57:13;057] UNRAVELING OF HER ROMANCE TURNED
[000:57:14;191] INTO THE MOST TERRIFYING YEAR OF
[000:57:15;460] HER LIFE.
[000:57:19;464] LET'S TURN TOT2 MAY 24th, 199.
[000:57:23;968] THIS WAS A YEAR AND A HALF ABOUT
[000:57:26;871] AFTER YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH
[000:57:28;205] BILL CLINTON BEGAN.
[000:57:30;207] IT'S WHAT YOU CALL D-DAY.
[000:57:33;277] WHICH STOOD FOR?
[000:57:33;778] >> DUMP DAY.
[000:57:36;213] >> DUMP MONICA.
[000:57:36;713] >> YES.
[000:57:39;283] >> IN BREAKING UP WITH YOU THAT
[000:57:40;617] DAY, THE PRESIDENT CONFIDED IN
[000:57:44;488] YOUUHE HAD NOT BEFORE.
[000:57:48;092] >> HE TALKED ABOUT DIFCULTIES
[000:57:52;263] THAT HE'S HAD IN HIS LIFE AND IN
[000:57:58;369] HIS PRIVATE LIFE.
[000:57:59;669] >> MONICA LATER TOLD
[000:58:01;338] INVESTIGATORS THAT BILL CLINTON
[000:58:03;407] SAID HE HAD LED A LIFE OF LIES
[000:58:04;909] AND DECEPTION EVER SINCE HE WAS
[000:58:06;476] A SMALL BOY.
[000:58:08;012] ACCORDING TO MONICA, THE
[000:58:09;446] PRESIDENT SAID THAT HE HAD BEEN
[000:58:11;515] WITH HUNDREDS OF WOMEN UNTIL THE
[000:58:13;082] TIME HE WAS 40.
[000:58:14;117] AT THAT TIME HE CONSIDERED
[000:58:16;520] DIVORCE AND LEAVING POLITICS,
[000:58:18;121] BUT DECIDED TO TRY TO MAKE HIS
[000:58:19;589] MARRIAGE WORK AND TO "BE GOOD."
[000:58:22;125] ACCORDING TO MONICA, HE TOLD HER
[000:58:23;760] THAT THEY COULD REMAIN FRIENDS
[000:58:25;429] AND THAT HE COULD DO A LOT FOR
[000:58:29;399] WAS NOT RIGHIN T EYES OFONSHI
[000:58:31;034] GOD.
[000:58:33;804] >> I WAS HEARTBROKEN.
[000:58:43;947] I DIDN'T WANT THE RELATIONSHIP
[000:58:45;381] TO END.
[000:58:48;517] YOU NT SO BADLY TO HOLD ON TO
[000:58:50;886] THIS THING THAT YOU WANT, AND IT
[000:58:55;358] HURTS.
[000:58:55;691] >> YOU SAID THAT WHEN YOU LEFT
[000:58:57;193] BILL CLINTON'S OFFICE THAT DAY,
[000:58:59;929] YOU SOBBED IN THE ARMS OF BETTY
[000:59:01;397] CURRIE.
[000:59:03;066] AND THERE WERE TIMES WHEN SHE
[000:59:04;267] ESCORTED YOU INTO THE
[000:59:05;534] PRESIDENT'S OFFICE AND WEPT
[000:59:10;406] HERSELF.
[000:59:10;773] DO YOU THINK THAT BETTY CURRIE
[000:59:12;241] WAS AN ENABLER.
[000:59:13;776] >> I CERTAINLY KNOW THAT THIS
[000:59:16;245] RELATIONSHIP COULD NOT HAVE
[000:59:17;113] CONTINUED THE WAY IT DID WHEN I
[000:59:18;714] WAS AT THE PENTAGON AND THE
[000:59:19;714] PRESIDENT WAS OBVIOUSLY AT THE
[000:59:20;648] WHITE HOUSE, WITHOUT BETTY.
[000:59:21;850] >> IN RETROSPECT, DUOU THINK
[000:59:23;785] THAT BETTY CURRIE KNEW ABOUT
[000:59:25;253] YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE
[000:59:26;355] PRESIDENT?
[000:59:26;754] >> SHETRIKES ME AS THE TYPE OF
[000:59:28;390] WOMAN THAT PROBABLY WOULDN'T
[000:59:29;791] EVEN HAVEED HERSELF T
[000:59:31;326] THINKÑT.
[000:59:32;461] p:ERINm3 KW TT THERE
[000:59:34;963] WAS A PERSONAL RATIONSHIP
[000:59:36;431] THERE, SOMETHING THAT CAUSED ME
[000:59:39;534] GREAT HAPPINESS AND GREAT
[000:59:42;070] DISTRESS.
[000:59:42;471] >> A SCENE THAT HAS BEEN TALKED
[000:59:43;805] ABOUT AND WRITTEN ABOUT WAS WHEN
[000:59:46;308] YOU WENT TO THE WHITE HOUSE, AN
[000:59:50;379] UNSCHEDULED VISIT TO SEE BILL
[000:59:51;380] CLINTON, AND YOU WERE TOLD AT
[000:59:52;680] THE GATE THAT HE WAS MEETING
[000:59:54;215] WITH A WOMAN, A JOURNALIST NAMED
[000:59:58;152] ELEANOR MONDALE.
[000:59:59;787] YOU GOT MAD AND STALKED OFF.
[001:00:01;389] AN ANGRY BILL CLINTON CALLED YOU
[001:00:02;857] LATER AND SAID, MONICA, YOU MADE
[001:00:04;859] A STINK.whHE WASURIOUS
[001:00:06;260] WHERÑRE Y AT THAT POINT IN
[001:00:07;695] YOUR HEAD?
[001:00:08;696] >> I WAS AT THE END OF MY ROPék
[001:00:10;698] AN/>Qi<)nç÷, THIS WAS --W
[001:00:15;737] Ej HAVE -- PEOPLE CAN
[001:00:18;706] UNDERSTAND THE PUSH AND PULL OF
[001:00:20;842] THIS RELATIONSHIP.
[001:00:21;709] I MEAN, HOW CONFUSING IT WOULD
[001:00:24;679] BE FOR ME TO ON THE ONE HAND
[001:00:27;649] HAVE SOMEONE SAYING THINGS TO
[001:00:28;916] YOU, I PROMISE THIS, I PROMISE
[001:00:30;551] THAT, I CARE ABOUT YOU, I DON'T
[001:00:31;952] WANT TO HURT YOU, I WANT TO TAKE
[001:00:34;255] CARE OF YOU.
[001:00:34;922] AND THEN THE ACTIONS ARE
[001:00:36;457] SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
[001:00:37;024] AND THEN YOU GET INTO A FIGHT
[001:00:38;325] AND THEN YOU MAKE UP.
[001:00:39;826] THEN HE SAYS, EVERYTHING'S OKAY
[001:00:41;728] AND, I MISS YOU, THEN HE DOESN'T
[001:00:43;597] WANT TO SEE YOU.
[001:00:44;298] IT IS TY TOUGH EMOTIONALLY.
[001:00:46;233] >> TOWARDS THE END OF THE
[001:00:47;468] RELATIONSHIP WITH BILL CLINTON,
[001:00:48;302] YOU HAD MANY ARGUMENTS.
[001:00:49;770] YOU WOULD SCREAM AT HIM
[001:00:51;038] SOMETIMES OVER THE PHONE.
[001:00:51;805] YOU WOULD THREATEN HIM, THE
[001:00:54;075] PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
[001:00:58;446] >> I DIDN'T SEE HIM AS THE
[001:01:02;550] PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
[001:01:03;416] I TATED HIM. MAN AND THAT WAS
[001:01:07;754] >> WERE YOU THEN OUT OF CONTROL?
[001:01:10;156] >> UH-HUH.
[001:01:10;557] YES.
[001:01:12;125] I0HINK -- I THINK THAT'S -- FOR
[001:01:18;431] SOMEONE LIKE ME, HO WHO'S A VERY
[001:01:21;234] PASSIONATE, LOVING WOMAN, I
[001:01:24;537] THINK YOU OFTEN GET CLOSE TO
[001:01:26;339] THAT LINE.
[001:01:27;507] AND I WENT THROUGH A VERY
[001:01:29;576] DIFFICULT PERIOD.
[001:01:31;244] AND I COULD NOT RECOGNE THAT I
[001:01:33;880] NEEDED HELP./
[001:01:36;382] AND I NEEDED TO BE ON SOME SORT
[001:01:37;984] OF ANTI-DEPRESSANT.
[001:01:39;185] >> MUCH LATER ON, AFTER
[001:01:40;820] EVERYTHING WITH KEN STARR, AFTER
[001:01:42;222] THE AFFIDAVIT, THIS PAST YEAR,
[001:01:44;657] YOU WERE PUT ON MEDICATION, YES?
[001:01:45;925] >> YES.
[001:01:47;960] >> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
[001:01:49;362] PERHAPS PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND
[001:01:50;196] IS THAT ONCE YOU BROKE OFF THE
[001:01:52;365] SEXUAL RELATIONSHIP, BILL
[001:01:53;766] CLINTON CONTINUED TO HAVE
[001:01:56;569] CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU, MEETINGS
[001:02:00;607] WI YOU.
[001:02:01;007] IT ISN'T THE END IS THE END AND
[001:02:02;242] THAT'S IT?
[001:02:02;708] >> NO, NO.
[001:02:03;476] BUT I ALSO HAVE TO ADD THAT
[001:02:06;546] THERE WAS ANOTHER ELEMENT TO ALL
[001:02:07;813] THIS, WHICH WAS MY JOB.
[001:02:09;516] AND I HAD LOST MY JOB, AND I HAD
[001:02:12;551] BEEN PROMISED THAT I COULD COME
[001:02:14;253] BACK.
[001:02:14;586] >> YOU KNOW, OTHER WOMEN HAVE
[001:02:16;555] HAD SEXUAL RELATIONSHI AND
[001:02:18;323] THEY DON'T EXPECT THAT OUT OF IT
[001:02:20;459] IS GOING TO COME A JOB.
[001:02:21;493] >> I NEVER EXPECTED THAT OUT OF
[001:02:23;629] IS RELATIONSHIP WOULD COME A
[001:02:25;297] JOB.
[001:02:25;631] >> BUT YOU NEVER --
[001:02:26;898] >> NEVER IN IN A MILLION YEARS.
[001:02:30;169] >> YOU THEN SAID, YOU HAVE TO
[001:02:31;936] GET ME A JOB.
[001:02:32;638] >> NO.
[001:02:33;104] HE PROMISED ME ON APRIL 61996
[001:02:35;574] WHEN I HAD TO LEAVE THE WHITE
[001:02:36;608] HOUSE, HE PROMISED ME AND HE
[001:02:38;544] SAID TO ME, I PROMISE YOU IF I
[001:02:41;946] WIN IN NOVEMBER, I'LL BRING YOU
[001:02:43;081] BACK LIKE THAT.
[001:02:43;682] >> OKAY.
[001:02:44;115] AND HE DIDN'T.
[001:02:44;716] SO HE DIDN'T KEEP HIS PROMISE.
[001:02:46;418] SO YOU COULD HAVE SAID HE DIDN'T
[001:02:47;886] KEEP HIS PROMISE.
[001:02:48;820] HE DIDN'T GET ME A JOB.
[001:02:50;088] SO BE IT.
[001:02:50;822] BUT YOU HELD HIM TO THAT.
[001:02:52;523] >> I DID.
[001:02:53;124] I DID.
[001:02:53;725] >> TOWARDS THE END OF THIS
[001:02:55;026] RELATIONSHIP, YOU WERE A REAL
[001:02:56;695] PAIN IN THE BUTT.
[001:02:57;228] >> YOU BET.
[001:02:57;962] YOU BET.
[001:03:00;732] >> SO THE PRESIDENT BREAKS UP
[001:03:01;966] WITH YOU.
[001:03:02;967] FINALLY, YOU DECIDE YOU WANT TO
[001:03:04;335] GET OUT OF WASHINGTON.
[001:03:05;670] AND LINDA TRIPP SUGGESTED THAT
[001:03:06;805] YOU ASK VERNON JORDAN, THE
[001:03:08;673] PRESIDENT'S VERY CLOSE FRIEND, A
[001:03:09;774] VERY POWERFUL MAN, AND HE HELPED
[001:03:12;911] YOU LOOK FOR A JOB.
[001:03:14;079] NOW, YOU HAD BEEN VERY ADAMANT
[001:03:16;380] THAT VERNON JORDAN'S HELP WAS
[001:03:17;916] NOT IN ANY WAY A PAYOFF FOR YOUR
[001:03:20;550] SILE
[001:03:21;218] BUT THEN TELL US WHY YOU THINK
[001:03:22;586] HE WAS HELPINGOUçy
[001:03:25;089] ñ I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER SAID
[001:03:26;690] ASSISTANCEOTNGTOR. JORDAS
[001:03:29;693] TH THE FACT THAT THE PRESIDENT
[001:03:30;828] AND I WERE AT L
[001:03:34;331] BUT I WEVER PROMISED A JOB
[001:03:36;867] FOR MY SILENCE.
[001:03:38;736] >> YOURFEELING WAS THAT THE
[001:03:41;138] RDAN, HELP HER?AID TO VERNON
[001:03:45;109] DO YOU THINK THAT VERNON JORDAN
[001:03:46;076] KNEW THAT YOU HAD AN AFFAIR WITH
[001:03:47;477] BILL CLINTON?>> I DON'T KNOW.
[001:03:48;678] >> YOU TOLD HIM AT ONE POINT
[001:03:50;413] SOTHINABOUT IT
[001:03:50;981] WHAT DIDOU S?
[001:03:51;749] >> AFTER I HAD ASKED HIM IF HE
[001:03:54;952] @.SE MARRD TO THE FIRSTD
[001:03:56;819] AND D, YES HE SHOULD --
[001:03:58;921] YES, HE WILL, AS HE SHOULD.
[001:04:02;792] BUT THEN MR. JORDAN SAID, BUT
[001:04:04;560] MAYBE YOU'LL HAVE AN AFFAIR WITH
[001:04:05;661] HIM AFTER HE'S OUT OF OFFICE.
[001:04:07;496] AND THAT WAS JUST STARTLING TO.
[001:04:09;665] AND I SAID TO HIM, WELL, I
[001:04:11;234] ALREADY DID HAVE AN AFFAIR WITH
[001:04:12;668] HIM, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE SEX OR
[001:04:14;536] EVERYTHING BUT SEX OR SOMETHI
[001:04:15;504] LIKE THAT.
[001:04:15;905] >> AN AFFAIR WITHOUT SEX.
[001:04:17;173] STILL CALLED AN AFFAIR?
[001:04:21;077] >> I THINK SO.
[001:04:22;011] I CALL -- I CONSIDER THAT I HAD
[001:04:23;746] AN AFFAIR WITH THE PRESIDENT AND
[001:04:25;148] WE DIDN'T HAVE SEX.
[001:04:25;882] WELL, INTERCOURSE.
[001:04:27;650] SO --
[001:04:28;985] >> MONICA, I NEVER KNOW WHERE TO
[001:04:31;287] GO WITH THAT ONE.
[001:04:34;757] DID YOU EVER TRY TO HAVE
[001:04:36;057] INTERCOURSE?
[001:04:36;492] >> UH-HUH.
[001:04:38;327] >> WHAT HAPPENED?
[001:04:39;428] >> I ACTUALLY HAD ALWAYS THOUGHT
[001:04:42;197] WE EVENTUALLY WOULD.
[001:04:43;265] I MEAN, THERE REALLY WAS NEVER A
[001:04:45;033] QUESTION FOR ME.
[001:04:46;134] I THINK MOST NORMAL PEOPLE WOULD
[001:04:48;771] THINK, WELL, SURE, YOU'RE GOING
[001:04:51;540] TO HAVE HAVE AN AFFAIR, YOU'RE
[001:04:52;274] GOING TO MAKE LOVE AND IT IS
[001:04:53;275] GOING TO BE GREAT.
[001:04:54;042] OR YOU HOPE IT'S GREAT.
[001:04:57;145] BUT WHEN WE FIRST WITH IT,
[001:05:00;449] ACTUALLY IT WAS DURING THE
[001:05:01;617] ELECTION.
[001:05:02;884] HE SAID, I CAN'T DO THAT.
[001:05:04;252] AND I SAID, WHAT DO YOU MEAN Y
[001:05:06;621] CAN'T DO THAT?
[001:05:07;388] HE SAID, WHEN YOU GET TO BE MY
[001:05:09;957] AGE, YOU'LL UNDERSTAND, THERE
[001:05:10;991] ARE CONSEQUENCES FOR THOSE KINDS
[001:05:12;527] OF THINGS.
[001:05:13;294] I GOT REALLY UPSET.
[001:05:15;062] BECAUSE TO ME, THAT COMPLETES A
[001:05:17;097] RELATIONSHIP.
[001:05:18;633] I FELT IT WAS UNFAIR TO ME
[001:05:21;268] HAVING BEEN INÑñS RELATIONSHIP
[001:05:22;903] AND HAVING BEEN A PART OF THIS,
[001:05:26;106] THAT I WOULD NEVER KNOW WHAT IT
[001:05:27;875] WAS LIKE TO BE THAT INTIMATE
[001:05:30;077] WITH HIM.
[001:05:30;878] BUT I DON'T THINK WE EVER TRIED.
[001:05:33;414] I THINK I TRIED TO GET HIM TO
[001:05:34;915] WANT TO HAV SEX WITH ME.
[001:05:36;384] >> OKAY.
[001:05:36;818] BUT IT NEVER ACTUALLY HAPPENED.
[001:05:38;786] >> NO.
[001:05:40;454] >> IN DECEMBER OF 1997, MORE
[001:05:43;257] THAN EIGHT MONTHS AFTER THE END
[001:05:44;325] OF YOUR PHYSICAL RELATIONSHIP
[001:05:45;759] WITH BILL CLINTON, PAULA JONES'
[001:05:48;963] ATTORNEYS NAMED YOU AS A
[001:05:50;497] POTENTIAL WITNESS IN THEIR CIVIL
[001:05:51;698] SUIT AGAINST THE PRESIDENT.
[001:05:52;967] THE PRESIDENT CALLED TO TELL YOU
[001:05:54;235] THIS.
[001:05:55;502] AND ABOUT 2:00 IN THE MORNING.
[001:05:57;637] HE OFTEN CALLED YOU LATE AT
[001:05:58;839] NIGHT.
[001:05:59;273] WERE YOU FRIGHTENED?
[001:06:00;674] >> TERRIBLY.
[001:06:04;178] TERRIBLY.
[001:06:04;678] >> WERE YOU AMAZED?
[001:06:07;915] >> YES.
[001:06:08;448] I WAS ASTOUNDED.
[001:06:09;616] I MEAN, THIS WAS -- THIS REALLY
[001:06:11;852] WAS THE BEGINNING OF THE
[001:06:12;486] NIGHTMARE.
[001:06:15;255] >> BUT THE NIGHTMARE WOULD ONLY
[001:06:16;857] GET WORSE, AS MONICA FOUND
[001:06:19;158] HERSELF FACING THREATS OF PRISON
[001:06:20;894] TH WHAT SEEMED TO HER NO WAY
[001:06:21;995] OUT.
[001:06:24;063] >> I HAVE NEVER BEEN SO AFRAID
[001:06:25;866] IN MY ENTIRE LIFE.
[001:06:36;843] >> Announcer: IT HAPPENED LAST
[001:06:38;344] SUMMER.
[001:06:38;712] >> INDEED, I DID HAVE A
[001:06:40;213] RELATIONSHIP WITH MS. LEWINSKY
[001:06:41;548] THAT WAS NOT APPROPRIATE.
[001:06:42;649] IN FACT, IT WAS WRONG.
[001:06:44;984] >> YOU'RE WATCHING THIS NOW.
[001:06:46;119] WHAT DO YOU THINK?
[001:06:46;886] >> I FELT LIKE A PIECE OF TRASH.
[001:06:49;955] I FELT -- I FELT DIRTY AND I
[001:06:54;960] FELT USED, AND I WAS
[001:06:58;564] DISAPPOINTED.
[001:07:00;165] >> FELT HE WAS BEING SERVICED,
[001:07:04;102] WHICH WAS THE IMPRESSION.
[001:07:04;904] >> THAT WAS THE IMPRESSION HE
[001:07:06;472] GAVE.
[001:07:06;906] >> Announcer: MORE OF THIS
[001:07:07;907] SPECIAL "20/20" AFTER THIS.
[001:07:22;321] WE'RE TIGHT.
[001:07:17;082] AFR IF
[001:08:57;680] >>> AS HER ROMANCE FELL APART,
[001:08:59;916] MONICA AT FIRST THOUGHT SHE
[001:09:01;451] COULD CONTROL EVENTS.
[001:09:02;652] THERE WAS A DEVIOUS GAME OF HIDE
[001:09:04;253] AND SEEK WITH GIFTS THAT THE
[001:09:05;887] PRESIDENT HAD GIVEN MONICA AND
[001:09:08;190] THAT HAD BEEN SUBPOENAED BY
[001:09:09;691] PAULA JONES' LAWYERS.
[001:09:11;626] MOST OF THOSE GIFTS WOUND UP
[001:09:13;529] UNDER THE BED OF THE PRESIDENT'S
[001:09:16;165] SECRETARY BETTY CURRIE.
[001:09:17;866] CURRIE'S STORY AND LEWINSKY'S
[001:09:20;835] DIFFER AS TO WHOSE IDEA THAT
[001:09:22;171] WAS.
[001:09:22;604] THEN THERE WAS LINDA TRIPP.
[001:09:23;905] WHEN SHE SAID SHE WOULD TELL THE
[001:09:25;674] TRUTH ABOUT LEWINSKY'S FAIR IF
[001:09:29;844] ASKED BY LAWYERS, MONICA
[001:09:33;582] PANICKED.
[001:09:33;982] SHE BEGGED TRIPP TO CONCEAL.
[001:09:37;852] MONICA LATER GAVE TRIPP THREE
[001:09:39;387] PAGES OF NOTES, THE SO-CALLED
[001:09:41;222] TALKING POINTS, TO USE AS
[001:09:42;856] POSSIBLE GUIDELINES FOR TRIPP'S
[001:09:44;192] AFFIDAVIT.
[001:09:48;096] LET'S TALK ABOUT THOSE INFAMOUS
[001:09:49;663] TALKING POINTS.
[001:09:50;931] NOW, LINDA TRIPP SAYS SHE
[001:09:54;402] BELIEVES THAT THE NOTION THAT
[001:09:55;203] YOU WROTE THOSE ON YOUR OWN IS
[001:09:56;870] ABOUT AS LIKELY AS YOU
[001:09:58;672] CO-AUTHORING THE GETTYSBURG
[001:10:00;341] ADDRESS WITH LINCOLN.
[001:10:01;542] YOU TESTIFIED THAT YOU WROTE
[001:10:02;610] THESE YOURSELF.
[001:10:03;511] >> UH-HUH.
[001:10:04;011] >> SO HER QUESTION IS AND THE
[001:10:05;646] QUESTION OF OTHER PEOPLE, HOW
[001:10:07;047] WERE YOU ABLE TO USE THOSE LEGAL
[001:10:08;616] TERMS?
[001:10:08;949] I MEAN, YOU'RE NOT THAT INFORMED
[001:10:11;319] YOU'RE NOT THAT SMART.
[001:10:12;853] DID ANYONE HELP YOU WITH THESE
[001:10:13;921] TALKING POINTS?
[001:10:14;422] >> NO.
[001:10:16;423] I HAD BEEN WORKING ON MY OWN
[001:10:18;358] AFFIDAVIT WITH MY ATTORNEY AT
[001:10:19;093] THE TIME.
[001:10:21;829] I'VE BEEN TOLD BY THE
[001:10:23;430] PROSECUTORS AND BY MY OWN
[001:10:24;898] ATTORNEYS I SHOULD GO TO LAW
[001:10:25;599] SCHOOL.
[001:10:27;434] I GUS I HAVE A KNACK FOR IT.
[001:10:29;369] I SAT DOWN AT THE COMPUTER AND I
[001:10:31;772] TYPED IT OUT.
[001:10:32;640] >> YOU NALLY DID FILE A FALSE
[001:10:35;275] FIDAVIT, SAYING THA YOU DID
[001:10:36;376] NOT HAVE A SEXUAL RELATIONSHIP
[001:10:37;711] WITH THE PRESIDENT.
[001:10:39;079] DID YOU KNOW THAT YOU WERE
[001:10:40;280] COMMITTING PERJURY?
[001:10:45;019] >> NO, I THINK I KNEW I WA
[001:10:47;087] LYING, BUT I HAD NO KNOWLEDGE --
[001:10:49;123] I MEAN, I HAD NO IDEA WHAT ALL
[001:10:51;824] THE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS OF
[001:10:52;959] PERJURY WERE AT THE TIME.
[001:10:53;793] >> WERE YOU TRYING TO PROTECT
[001:10:54;661] THE PRESIDENT?
[001:10:56;530] >> I WAS TRYING TO PROTECT
[001:10:57;597] MYSELF AND THE PRESIDENT.
[001:10:59;332] AND MY FAMILY.
[001:11:01;268] >> THE PRESIDENT NEVER TOLD YOU
[001:11:02;469] TO LIE.
[001:11:03;603] >> NO.
[001:11:04;103] >> BUT HE ALSO NEVER TOLD YOU TO
[001:11:05;905] TELL THE TRUTH.
[001:11:06;406] >> CORRECT.
[001:11:07;907] >> YOU TOLD LINDA TRIPP THAT ONE
[001:11:09;676] OF THE MAIN REASONS THAT YOU
[001:11:10;877] WERE GOING TO DENY THE SEXUAL
[001:11:13;446] RELATIONSHIP IN YOUR AFFIDAVIT
[001:11:15;615] WAS FOR FEAR OF YOUR LIFE.
[001:11:17;750] YOU SAID, I WOULD NOT CROSS
[001:11:20;387] THOSE PEOPLE FOR FEAR OF MY
[001:11:21;388] LIFE.
[001:11:21;788]  WERE "THOSE PEOPLE" AND WHAT
[001:11:25;090]  WAS NOT9 VoY TRUTHF DO?
[001:11:28;327] STATEMENT.
[001:11:29;828] THAT I MADE HER AT THAT TIME
[001:11:31;630] ON THE TAPES.
[001:11:32;798] I THIN WAS TRYING TO --
[001:11:36;602] TRYING TO GET LINDA TO KEEP MY
[001:11:38;504] SECR AND TRYING TO USE
[001:11:40;005] ANYTHING AND ANYBODY THAT WOULD
[001:11:41;907] DO THAT.
[001:11:42;508] SO WHETHER IT WAS MY MOM
[001:11:43;775] WHETHER IT WAS MR. JORDAN,
[001:11:45;110] WHETHER IT WAS SOMETHING THE
[001:11:45;977] PRESIDENT SAID, WHETHER IT WAS
[001:11:47;413] FEAR, WHATEVER IT WAS TT I
[001:11:48;880] COULD DO, WHATEVER IT WAS A
[001:11:50;216] CONDO IN AUSTRALIA, I DIDN'T
[001:11:52;585] WANT HER TO TELL MY SECRET.
[001:11:54;986] >> LINDA TRIPP RECENTLY SAID
[001:11:56;622] THAT YOU PASSED ON WHITE HOUSE
[001:11:58;056] THREATS TO HER.
[001:11:58;557] DID YOU DO THAT?
[001:11:59;057] >> NO.
[001:12:01;092] >> JANUARY 16th, 1998.
[001:12:04;596] LINDA TRIPP ASKED YOU TO MEET
[001:12:06;063] HER AT THE RITZ CARLTON HOTEL
[001:12:08;499] NEAR THE PENTAGON.
[001:12:10;101] THERE YOU WERE CONFRONTED NOT
[001:12:11;502] ONLY BY LINDA TRIPP BUT BY
[001:12:13;705] MEMBERS OF KEN STARR'S STAFF AND
[001:12:16;207] BY FBI AGENTS.
[001:12:18;943] WHAT HPENED THAT DAY?
[001:12:20;311] >> MY ATTORNEYS HAVE AGREED WITH
[001:12:22;280] THE OFFICE OF THE INDEPENDENT
[001:12:23;648] COUNSEL TH I WOULD NOT DISCUSS
[001:12:25;683] THE DETAILS OF THAT DAY IN THIS
[001:12:27;552] INTERVIEW.
[001:12:28;386] >> DUE TO HER UNUSUAL IMMUNITY
[001:12:32;523] AGREEMENT WITH KEN STARR,EN
[001:12:33;625] MONICA IS NOT ALLOWED TO DISCUSS
[001:12:34;891] THAT DAY WITH MEMBERS OF THE
[001:12:36;760] NEWS MEDIA, WHICH INCLUDES ME.
[001:12:38;629] BUT HER LAWYERS INTERPRETED THE
[001:12:41;265] IMMUNITY AGREEMENT IN SUCH A WAY
[001:12:42;299] THAT SHE WAS ABLE TO TELL
[001:12:44;167] BRITISH AUTHOR ANDREW MORTON
[001:12:45;535] ABOUT IT.
[001:12:46;370] AND IT IS DESCRIBED IN VIVID
[001:12:48;071] DETAIL IN HIS BOOK.
[001:12:50;307] TWO ARMED FBI AGENTS LED MONICA
[001:12:52;942] TO ROOM 1012 IN THE RITZ CARLTON
[001:12:56;212] HOTEL WHERE THERE WERE SIX
[001:12:57;481] MEMBERS OF KEN STARR'S STAFF
[001:12:58;348] WAITING FOR HER.
[001:13:00;116] FOR HOURS ON END THEY THREW
[001:13:01;951] QUESTIONS AT HER.
[001:13:03;520] MONICA WAS THREATENED WITH 27
[001:13:05;455] YEARIN PRISON FOR PERJURY,
[001:13:07;924] WITNESS TAMPERING, AND
[001:13:09;358] OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.
[001:13:10;894] BUT EVEN WORSE FOR MONICA, SHE
[001:13:12;662] SAYS, THE PROSECUTORS ALSO
[001:13:15;064] THREATENED HER MOTHER WITH
[001:13:16;099] CRIMINAL CHARGES BECAUSE OF:
[001:13:17;600] STATEMENTS MONICA HAD MADE ON
[001:13:19;903] THE LINDA TRIPP TAPES.
[001:13:21;271] THOSE STATEMENTS, IF TRUE, MIGHT
[001:13:22;972] HAVE IMPLICATED HER MOTHER IN
[001:13:24;908] THE OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.
[001:13:27;243] BUT THE PROSECUTORS PROMISED
[001:13:29;512] LEWINSKY IMMUNITY THEN AND THERE
[001:13:31;314] IF SHE TOLD THEM EVERYTHING AND
[001:13:34;017] WORE A WIRE TO RECORD
[001:13:36;286] CONVERSATIONS WITH VERNON JORDAN
[001:13:38;554] BETTY CURRIE, AND POSSIBLY EVEN
[001:13:40;256] THE PRESIDENT.
[001:13:42;358] THE CONFRONTATION,THE BOOK, WASD
[001:13:46;195] UGLY.
[001:13:47;029] MONICA DESCRIBES ONE PROSECUTOR
[001:13:48;864] AS "A REVOLTING SPECIMEN OF
[001:13:52;301] MANITY."
[001:13:53;669] ANOTHER AS A PIT BULL WHO MOCKED
[001:13:55;538] HER WHEN SHE ASKED TO CALL HER
[001:13:57;840] MOTHER.
[001:13:58;341] AND WHEN SHE WANTED TO CALL HER
[001:13:59;675] LAWYER, PROSECUTORS DISCOURAGED
[001:14:01;510] HER.
[001:14:01;977] AFTER 12 HOURS, RESISTING THE
[001:14:03;846] DEMANDS OF PROSECUTORS, MONICA'S
[001:14:06;315] FAMILY HIRED ATTORNEY BILL
[001:14:08;651] GINSBURG, AND MONICA FINALLY
[001:14:09;518] WENT HOME.
[001:14:12;955] YOU LEARNED THAT DAY THAT LINDA
[001:14:15;858] TRIPP HAD TAPED YOUR
[001:14:17;492] CONVERSATION.
[001:14:17;959] YOU DIDN'T KNOW THEN THAT SHE
[001:14:19;527] HAD TAPED OVER THINGS.
[001:14:20;962] BUT HOW DID YOU FEEL WHEN YOU
[001:14:22;530] LEARNED FOR THE FIRST TIME THAT
[001:14:24;332] SHE TAPED YOU?
[001:14:27;902] >> GUTTED AND VIOLATED AND
[001:14:33;675] BETRAYED AND SCARED.
[001:14:37;712] >> I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE
[001:14:39;647] RESTRICTED IN THE EVENTS OF
[001:14:40;982] THOSE DAYS AND WHAT HAPPENED
[001:14:42;384] WHEN YOU WERE IN THE ROOM WITH
[001:14:43;818] KEN STARR'S PEOPLE AND THE FBI
[001:14:44;552] AGENTS.
[001:14:46;554] BUT YOU CAN TELL US HOW YOU WERE
[001:14:47;689] FEELING.
[001:14:50;024] HOW DID YOU FEEL THAT DAY?
[001:14:51;893] WHAT WERE YOUR EMOTIONS?
[001:14:56;964] >> OH, I WAS PETRIFIED.
[001:15:05;672] I WAS --
[001:15:07;541] I HAVE NEVER BEEN SO AFRAID IN
[001:15:09;277] MY ENTIRE LIFE.
[001:15:12;613] I WANTED TO DIE.
[001:15:17;618] I WANTED TO KILL EVERYBODY IN
[001:15:18;452] THE ROOM.
[001:15:22;489] I WAS JUST VERY, VERY SCARED.
[001:15:25;026] >> AS WE TALK NOW TODAY, IS
[001:15:29;862] THERE ANYTHING YOU'RE AFRAID OF?
[001:15:34;367] >> I'M AFRAID OF DOING SOMETHING
[001:15:35;902] TO LOSE MY IMMUNITY, AND BEING
[001:15:41;374] PROSECUTED.
[001:15:43;576] OR HAVING MY FAMILY PROSECUTED.
[001:15:49;249] >> YOU MEAN, YOU STILL THINK YOU
[001:15:50;683] COULD GO TO JAIL?
[001:15:54;955] >> I LEARNED THINGS THIS PAST
[001:15:57;257] YEAR AND SAW THINGS THIS PAST
[001:15:58;591] YEAR THAT I DIDN'T KNOW HAPPENED
[001:16:00;060] IN THIS COUNTRY.
[001:16:02;594] AND YES, I WORRY ABOUT THAT.
[001:16:06;231] >> HAVE YOU EVER MET KEN STARR?
[001:16:09;168] HAVE YOU EVER TALKED TO KEN
[001:16:10;235] STARR?
[001:16:10;569] >> NO.
[001:16:13;839] >> WHAT DO YOU THINK OF KEN
[001:16:14;539] STARR?
[001:16:22;581] WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT WHAT
[001:16:23;782] HAPPENED THAT DAY.
[001:16:24;516] WE'RE TALKING ABOUT YOUR
[001:16:25;451] FEELINGS.
[001:16:33;725] >> I'M TOO AFRAID TO ANSWER
[001:16:34;893] THAT.
[001:16:35;227] I'M SORRY.
[001:16:38;929] >> MONICA'S FEARS ONLY
[001:16:41;099] INTENSIFIED.
[001:16:41;966] KEN STARR'S PROSECUTORS
[001:16:43;601] SURROUNDED HER AND WHEN HER
[001:16:45;503] STORY BECAME KNOWN, THE MEDIA
[001:16:47;238] BESIEGED HER.
[001:16:47;905] AND SHE SERIOUSLY CONSIDERED
[001:16:49;207] SUICIDE.
[001:16:54;045] >> BEHIND THE NAME MONICA
[001:16:56;580] LEWINSKY THERE IS A PERSON AND A
[001:16:57;348] FAMILY.
[001:17:46;463] [ Alarm Blaring ]
[001:17:46;463] TU
[001:17:48;098] INTRODUCING...
[001:17:48;098] SECU
[001:17:54;404] THE...
[001:18:03;646] S.C. JOHNSON.
[001:18:03;646] A FAMILY COMPANY.
[001:19:08;910] >>> WE NOW TURN TO THE BLEAKEST
[001:19:10;946] AND MOST DESPERATE MONTHS FOR
[001:19:13;481] MONICA LEWINSKY.
[001:19:14;249] EVERY DETAIL OF HER LIFE BECAME
[001:19:16;818] PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE.
[001:19:17;418] SHE DIDN'T HAVE IMMUNITY FROM
[001:19:19;621] PROSECUTION, AND HER LAWYER,
[001:19:20;889] BILL GINSBURG, SHE SAYS, WAS
[001:19:21;790] FAILING HER.
[001:19:23;859] AND WORST OF ALL, THE PRESIDENT
[001:19:25;126] WAS DENYING THAT HE'D HAD ANY
[001:19:27;362] RELATIONS WITH HER.
[001:19:28;363] HE ALMOST SEEMED NOT TO KNOW HER
[001:19:29;364] NAME.
[001:19:31;065] BUT AT THE BEGINNING, HER
[001:19:32;700] GREATEST FEAR WAS WHAT KEN
[001:19:34;302] STARR'S PROSECUTORS MIGHT DO TO@
[001:19:37;038] HER AND TO THE PRESIDENT.
[001:19:40;875] AFTER THIS SESSION WITH THE
[001:19:44;078] PROSECUTORS AND THE FBI, YOU AND
[001:19:46;047] YOUR MOTHER WENT BACK TO HER
[001:19:49;350] APARTMENT AT THE WATERGATE.
[001:19:51;118] TELL ME ABOUT THAT NIGHT.
[001:19:56;991] >> WE WERE MANIC.
[001:19:58;393] WE WERE SO AFRAID THAT ANY
[001:20:04;398] MINUTE WE WERE GOING TO BE
[001:20:07;234] ARRESTED AND NOT KNOWING, FOR
[001:20:12;673] ME -- I WAS CONSTANTLY THINKING
[001:20:14;174] AT THAT POINT, HOW AM I GOING TO
[001:20:15;975] PROTECT THE PRESIDENT.
[001:20:16;710] HOW AM I GOING TO LET HIM KNOW.
[001:20:18;745] HOW IS HE GOING TO BE HELPED?
[001:20:20;314] AND I KNEW HE WAS GOING TO DO
[001:20:22;015] THE DEPOSITION THE NEXT DAY.
[001:20:24;117] AND I WAS WRACKING MY BRAINS
[001:20:27;120] TRYING TO THINK OF ANYTHING.
[001:20:28;188] COULD I GET IN A TAXI AND GO TO
[001:20:30;090] BETTY CURRIE'S HOUSE?
[001:20:32;359] COULD I CALL BRUCE LINDSEY, WHOM
[001:20:33;560] I HAD NEVER MET OR SPOKEN TO?
[001:20:35;361] WHO COULD I CALL?
[001:20:36;562] WHAT COULD I DO?
[001:20:37;563] COULD I GO STAND OUTSIDE WHERE
[001:20:39;099] HE WAS GOING TO DO THE
[001:20:40;466] DEPOSITION AND HOLD A SIGN,
[001:20:43;402] DON'T DO IT?
[001:20:43;837] ANYTHING.
[001:20:44;337] >> WHAT DID YOU DO?
[001:20:45;571] >> THAT NIGHT I --
[001:20:47;774] I COULDN'T DO ANYTHING.
[001:20:50;476] I COULDN'T PUT MYSELF OR MY
[001:20:54;313] MOTHER IN THAT JEOPARDY.
[001:20:56;916] >> DID YOU THINK OF RUNNING
[001:20:59;485] AWAY?
[001:21:00;686] >> UH-HUH.
[001:21:01;454] WE FIGURED THAT ALL THE AIRPORTS
[001:21:04;357] WOULD BE STAKED OUT AND THAT --
[001:21:16;935] MY MOM LAY AWAKE ALL NIGHT
[001:21:19;805] WATCHING ME SLEEP AND MADE ME
[001:21:23;375] TAKE A SHOWER WITH THE DOOR
[001:21:25;744] OPEN.
[001:21:28;113] >> BECAUSE?
[001:21:31;716] >> BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T WANT ME TO
[001:21:33;718] HURT MYSELF.
[001:21:35;020] >> SHE WAS AFRAID YOU MIGHT DO
[001:21:36;789] YOURSELF HARM, KILL YOURSELF?
[001:21:40;926] THAT BAD?
[001:21:48;199] >> I FELT VERY RESPONSIBLE.
[001:21:50;935] >> RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT?
[001:21:55;407] >> FOR EVERYTHING THAT WAS GOING
[001:21:57;141] TO HAPPEN AND THAT HAD HAPPENED.
[001:22:07;919] I DIDN'T WANT HIM TO GET INTO
[001:22:08;820] TROUBLE.
[001:22:10;955] >> YOU WERE WORRIED ABOUT BILL
[001:22:12;424] CLINTON?
[001:22:12;857] MORE THAN ABOUT YOURSELF?
[001:22:14;626] MORE THAN ABOUT YOUR MOTHER?
[001:22:15;727] >> NO.
[001:22:16;160] I WAS WORRIED ABOUT MY MOM MORE
[001:22:18;095] THAN I WAS WORRIED ABOUT THE
[001:22:19;997] PRESIDENT, AND THEN I WAS
[001:22:21;398] WORRIED ABOUT THE PRESIDENT AND
[001:22:22;366] THEN I WAS WORRIED ABOUT MYSELF.
[001:22:27;037] >> AND THEN FIVE DAYS LATER, THE
[001:22:29;373] STORY BROKE.
[001:22:29;906] EVERYONE IN THE COUNTRY NOW
[001:22:31;141] KNEW.?ç,@
[001:22:34;911] MONICA LEWINSKY.
[001:22:35;412] >> UNFORTUNATEWh
[001:22:42;619] >> GET YOUR ARMS OFF HER.
[001:22:44;287] >> I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO
[001:22:45;989] BEGIN TO DESCRIBE WHAT IT WAS,
[001:22:49;493] BUT IT WAS TO SEE MY FACE ON TV,
[001:22:54;831] TO READ MY NAME IN THE NEWSPAPER
[001:22:57;500] TO SEE AND KNOW THAT PEOPLE ARE
[001:23:01;637] LEARNING ABOUT MY LITTLE
[001:23:05;040] RELATIONSHIP, MY PRIVATE
[001:23:08;010] RELATIONSHIP.
[001:23:11;080] AND THAT THERE WERE ALL THESE
[001:23:12;248] PEOPLE THAT I CARED ABOUT WERE
[001:23:13;383] GOING TO BE IN TROUBLE.
[001:23:14;450] >> YOU TOLD FRIENDS THAT AT ONE
[001:23:16;151] TIME OR ANOTHER YOUR MOTHER AND
[001:23:19;121] YOUR FATHER, BECAUSE OF THINGS
[001:23:22;525] THAT WERE REVEALED, THE MOST
[001:23:24;560] PERSONAL THINGS ABOUT THEM, THAT
[001:23:25;661] EACH OF THEM CONSIDERED TAKING
[001:23:30;399] THEIR OWN LIVES?
[001:23:31;600] IT WAS THAT BAD?
[001:23:33;468] THEY DID?
[001:23:41;543] >> PEOPLE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT TS
[001:23:47;482] HAS DONE, WHAT THIS HAS DONE
[001:23:52;888] THAT BEHIND THE NAME MONICA
[001:23:54;489] LEWINSKY THERE'S A PERSON AND
[001:23:55;324] THERE IS A FAMILY AND THERE HAS
[001:23:57;793] BEEN SO MUCH PAIN THAT HAS BEEN
[001:24:00;029] CAUSED BY ALL THIS.
[001:24:06;034] IT WAS SO --
[001:24:10;305] DESTRUCTIVE.
[001:24:10;739] IT WAS SO DESTRUCTIVE.
[001:24:17;746] >> I DON'T WANT TO CAUSE YOU
[001:24:19;280] MORE PAIN AS WE TALK, BUT ONE OF
[001:24:20;849] THE LOWEST POINTS OF THIS PAST
[001:24:22;451] YEAR HAS TO BE WHEN YOUR MOTHER
[001:24:24;786] WAS FORCED TO TESTIFY OR ASKED
[001:24:26;455] TO TESTIFY BEFORE THE GRAND JURY
[001:24:27;889] AND SHE BROKE DOWN AND SOBBED ON
[001:24:29;491] THE STAND.
[001:24:41;635] >> NO MOTHER SHOULD BE FORCED TO
[001:24:43;504] TESTIFY AGAINST HER DAUGHTER.
[001:24:47;074] >> MONICA SAYS SHE COULD NOT
[001:24:48;642] HAVE GOTTEN THROUGH THIS PAST
[001:24:49;877] YEAR WITHOUT HER MOTHER AND HER
[001:24:52;680] FATHER, AND SHE DESCRIBES --
[001:24:55;683] WHOM SHE DESCRIBES AS HER ROCK
[001:24:57;551] OF GIBRALTAR.
[001:24:58;986] THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE YEAR,
[001:25:00;187] SHE RELIED ON A FAMILY FRIEND,
[001:25:02;055] ATTORNEY BILL GINSBURG.
[001:25:03;423] >> I WOULD LIKE MONICA TO BE
[001:25:05;960] FREE AND OUT OF JEOPARDY AS SOON
[001:25:07;394] AS POSSIBLE.
[001:25:07;827] >> I WANT TO ASK YOU A LITTLE
[001:25:09;129] BIT ABOUT BILL GINSBURG.
[001:25:10;730] IN THE BEGINNING HE WAS ON
[001:25:12;565] TELEVISION AND IT SEEMED HE WAS
[001:25:13;533] VERY HELPFUL.
[001:25:15;335] AS TIME WENT ON, WHAT DO YOU
[001:25:17;770] THINK OF BILL GINSBURG'S ROLE?
[001:25:21;875] >> I AGREE WITH YOU THAT AT
[001:25:23;810] FIRST HE WAS -- I THINK HIS
[001:25:28;015] MOTIVES WERE IN THE RIGHT PLACE.
[001:25:29;649] >> JOINING US NOW IS MONICA
[001:25:32;252] LEWINSKY'S ATTORNEY, WILLIAM
[001:25:33;353] GINSBURG.
[001:25:33;753] >> BUT UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK HE
[001:25:36;156] GOT BITTEN BY THE BUG.
[001:25:38;225] >> I WANT SOME GOD DAMN PRIVACY.
[001:25:40;527] >> IT BECAME MORE ABOUT BILL
[001:25:42;962] GINSBURG THAN IT DID ABOUT MY
[001:25:45;664] WELL BEING AND MY WELFARE.
[001:25:46;365] >> DO YOU THINK THAT BILL
[001:25:48;700] GINSBURG DID YOU HARM?
[001:25:50;736] >> YES.
[001:25:52;038] I DO.
[001:25:54;073] >> I WANT TO PLAY A VIDEOTAPE
[001:25:55;774] FOR YOU, A VERY FAMOUS
[001:25:59;078] VIDEOTAPE.
[001:25:59;478] >> I DID NOT HAVE SEXUAL
[001:26:01;914] RELATIONS WITH THAT WOMAN,
[001:26:03;549] MS. LEWINSKY.
[001:26:05;651] I NEVER TOLD ANYBODY TO LIE, NOT
[001:26:08;187] A SINGLE TIME, NEVER.
[001:26:14;026] >> WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION WHEN
[001:26:15;127] YOU SAW THIS?
[001:26:16;762] >> THE "THAT WOMAN" PART OF THE
[001:26:18;797] QUOTE WAS SO VERY HARSH AND IT
[001:26:21;866] WAS HURTFUL.
[001:26:23;034] I COULD SEE HOW ANGRY HE WAS,
[001:26:27;838] AND I DIDN'T THINK HE NEEDED TO
[001:26:29;840] GO ABOUT DENYING THE
[001:26:31;376] RELATIONSHIP IN THIS MANNER.
[001:26:34;245] THAT WAS DISAPPOINTING.
[001:26:36;614] I THINK HE COULD HAVE TAKEN A
[001:26:38;716] HIGHER ROAD INS DENIAL.
[001:26:40;085] >> HOW?
[001:26:43;354] >> IT STILL WOULD HAVE BEEN HE
[001:26:45;756] SAID, SHE SAID, IF HE HAD SAID,
[001:26:48;226] MONICA AND I WERE FRIENDS.
[001:26:49;594] SHE'S A GREAT WOMAN.
[001:26:50;495] SHE'S A BRIGHT WOMAN.
[001:26:52;630] I DON'T KNOW WHY SHE'S SAYING
[001:26:54;331] THESE THINGS.
[001:26:57;000] >> SO MONICA WAS BEWILDERED AND
[001:27:00;104] HURT, BUT DID SHE STILL LOVE
[001:27:02;038] BILL CLINTON?
[001:27:03;607] INDEED, DOES SHE STILL LOVE BILL
[001:27:06;143] CLINTON?
[001:27:06;610] AND WHAT DOES SHE THINK OF LINDA
[001:27:09;846] TRIPP?
[001:27:11;148] LINDA TRIPP SAYS SHE WOULD LIKE
[001:27:12;449] TO GIVE YOU A HUG.
[001:27:15;352] WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO GIVE
[001:27:16;220] LINDA TRIPP?
[001:27:41;043] ONE WORD CONVINCED ME
[001:27:41;043] AN HERBAL...
[001:27:41;043] 
[001:27:42;245] COULD HELP MAINTAIN
[001:27:42;245] MY CHOLESTEROL HEALTH.
[001:27:43;412] CENTRUM.
[001:27:44;713] ONE WORD TOLD ME
[001:27:44;713] THERE'S AN ADVANCE IN HERBALS...
[001:27:47;216] FOR ENERGY.
[001:28:30;959] I'M TAKING THE ONLY HERBAL
[001:28:30;959] BACKED>?od
[001:28:30;959] SUDDENLY PARIS, LONDON,
[001:28:30;959] BRUSSELS, DUSSELDO
[001:28:36;364] AE 60 M
[001:28:36;364] 60 M
[001:28:39;167] NOW DON'T YOU WISH YOU COULD
[001:28:39;167] TRAVEL LIKE THAT?
[001:28:43;037] BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR.
[001:28:45;640] ON-NET,
[001:28:45;640] FROM MCI WORLDCOM.
[001:28:51;012] WHERE DOES MONICA LEWINSKY GO
[001:28:51;879] FROM HERE?
[001:28:54;048] WILL THERE EVER BE A JOB?
[001:28:56;718] WILL THERE EVER BE A MAN IN HER
[001:28:58;152] LIFE?
[001:28:58;687] CAN SHE GET BILL CLINTON OUT OF
[001:29:00;188] HER HEART AND MIND?
[001:29:01;423] AND CAN SHE EVER LIVE DOWN THE
[001:29:03;791] REPUTATION THAT IT WAS SHE WHO
[001:29:05;793] PURSUED BILL CLINTON?
[001:29:08;630] I'D LIKE TO SHOW YOU ANOTHER
[001:29:09;331] TAPE.
[001:29:13;901] >> AND SAID THAT SHE HAD COME ON
[001:29:16;904] TO HIM AND MADE A DEMAND FOR SEX
[001:29:22;810] THAT HE HAD REBUFFED HER, TURNED
[001:29:24;545] HER DOWN.
[001:29:31;552] AND THAT SHE THREATENED HIM.
[001:29:37;759] AND HE SAID THAT SHE SAID TO HIM
[001:29:42;263] THAT SHE WAS CALLED THE STALKER
[001:29:45;900] BY HER PEERS.
[001:29:47;934] >> SYDNEY BLUMENTHAL, THE AIDE
[001:29:50;738] TO PRESIDENT CLINTON, SAYING
[001:29:52;606] THAT YOU WERE A STALKER, THE
[001:29:54;775] WHOLE COUNTRY THEN FELT IF THEY
[001:29:58;679] HADN'T BEFORE, THAT YOU WERE A
[001:29:59;413] STALKER.ñ3
[001:30:04;184] NOW, BILL CLINTON DELIBERATELY
[001:30:06;553] SMEARED YOU.
[001:30:07;254] >> UH-HUH.
[001:30:09;089] THAT WAS THE DEFINING MOMENT,
[001:30:12;025] WHEN I REALLY KNEW AND FELT OUT
[001:30:15;028] OF -- FELL OUT OF LOVE WITH HIM.
[001:30:19;333] AND THAT I KNEW AT THAT MOMENT
[001:30:21;334] THAT HE WAS DEFINITELY NOT THE
[001:30:24;170] PERSON THAT I HAD EVER THOUGHT
[001:30:25;171] HE WAS.
[001:30:29;074] >> THIS PAST SUMMER, YOU WERE
[001:30:31;778] OFFERED IMMUNITY, FINALLY.
[001:30:33;579] AND YOU WERE THEN REQUIRED TO
[001:30:34;980] DISCUSS EVERY INTIMATE DETAIL,
[001:30:37;249] EVERY SEXUAL DETAIL OF YOUR
[001:30:39;519] RELATIONSHIP BEFORE A GRAND
[001:30:40;219] JURY.
[001:30:42;955] IT MUST HAVE BEEN EXCRUCIATING.
[001:30:45;591] >> VERY, VERY VIOLATING.
[001:30:47;327] VERY VIOLATING.
[001:30:50;330] >> THERE IS THE QUESTION OF WHY
[001:30:53;465] YOU OFFERED SO MANY INTIMATE
[001:30:56;802] DETAILS TO THE PROSECUTOR.
[001:31:00;039] I MEAN, WHY, FOR EXAMPLE, TELL
[001:31:02;507] THEM ABOUT THAT CIGAR BUSINESS?
[001:31:04;710] YOU KNOW?
[001:31:06;045] THEY WOULD NEVER HAVE KNOWN,
[001:31:07;346] WOULD THEY?
[001:31:08;047] IF YOU HA TOLD THEM?
[001:31:10;149] >> NO, THEY DID KNOW.
[001:31:11;750] >> THEY DID KNOW.
[001:31:12;617] >> THEY DID KNOW, ESPECIALLY
[001:31:14;286] FROM CALLING MY GIRLFRIENDS
[001:31:15;721] BEFORE THE GRAND JURY.
[001:31:16;856] >> YOU TEASED ABOUT THIS WITH
[001:31:18;457] YOUR GIRLFRIENDS?
[001:31:19;691] >> WELL, SURE.
[001:31:20;759] I MEAN, THAT'S THE KIND OF
[001:31:22;661] RELATIONSHIP THAT WE HAD.
[001:31:25;898] AND STILL DO HAVE.
[001:31:28;834] WE'RE TIGHT.
[001:31:29;668] AND SO I WAS A IF I SORT OF
[001:31:33;838] JUST ANSWERED THE QUESTION AS
[001:31:35;373] THEY ASKED THEM AND DIDN'T GIVE
[001:31:37;075] THE FULL INFORMATION, THAT THEN
[001:31:38;509] THEY'D THINK THAT I WASN'T
[001:31:39;610] TELLING THE TRUTH AND THEY'D
[001:31:40;678] TAKE MY IMMUNITY AWAY.
[001:31:42;380] >> YOUR FATHER HAD TOLD ME -- WE
[001:31:44;482] DID AN INTERVIEW TOGETHEREFORE
[001:31:46;251] PRESIDENT CLINTON'S ADMISSION --
[001:31:47;451] THAT HE DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAD
[001:31:48;819] SEX WITH THE PRESIDENT AND HE
[001:31:49;921] DIDN'T WANT TO KNOW.
[001:31:50;788] AND THEN THIS TESTIMONY WHERE HE
[001:31:51;756] MUST HAVE KNOWN.
[001:31:58;429] >> AND I THINK IT'S HARD FOR HIM
[001:32:01;399] WHEN THE MAN WHO HURT YOUR BABY
[001:32:03;034] IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
[001:32:05;636] STATES, YOU CAN'T GO OUT AND
[001:32:08;806] EXPRESS YOUR ANGER OR YOU CAN'T
[001:32:10;875] GO BEAT THE GUY UP.
[001:32:19;917] THAT WAS A LOW MOMENT.
[001:32:22;653] >> INDEED, I DID HAVE A
[001:32:24;021] RELATIONSHIP WITH MS. LEWINSKY
[001:32:25;556] THAT WAS NOT APPROPRIATE.
[001:32:26;891] IN FACT, IT WAS WRONG.
[001:32:29;460] IT CONSTITUTED A CRITICAL LAPSE
[001:32:31;228] IN JUDGMEN A PERSONAL
[001:32:32;763] FAILURE ON MY PART FOR WHICH I
[001:32:35;466] AM SOLELY AND COMPLETELY
[001:32:36;233] RESPONSIBLE.
[001:32:41;370] >> YOU'RE WATCHING THIS NOW.
[001:32:42;371] WHAT DO YOU THINK?
[001:32:45;107] >> I FELT LIKE A PIECE OF TRASH.
[001:32:48;611] I FELT- I FELT DIRTY AND I
[001:32:52;949] FELT USED.
[001:32:56;052] AND I WAS DISAPPOINTED.
[001:32:59;021] >> FELT HE WASóEING SERVICED,
[001:33:02;158] WHICH WAS THE IMPRESSION?
[001:33:03;192] >> THAT WAS THE IMPRESSION HE
[001:33:03;960] GAVE.
[001:33:09;398] >> IN RETROSPECT, DO YOU THINK
[001:33:12;735] THAT BILL CLINTON REALLY CARE
[001:33:13;636] ABOUT YOU?AB
[001:33:17;806] >> SOME DAYS I THINK YES, AND
[001:33:19;508] SOME DAYS I THINK NO.
[001:33:24;180] >> DO YOU THINK HE HAS ANY
[001:33:25;814] GENUINE REMORSE OR DO YOU THINK
[001:33:28;250] HE'S JUST SORRY THAT HE GOT
[001:33:31;187] CAUGHT?
[001:33:31;553] >> WHEN I THINK OF THE PERSON
[001:33:33;922] THAT I THOUGHT WAS BILL CLINTON,
[001:33:36;158] I THINK HE HAS GENUINE REMORSE.
[001:33:39;228] WHEN I THINK OF THE PERSON THAT
[001:33:42;999] I NOW SEE AS 100% POLITICIAN, I
[001:33:47;336] THIN HE'S SORRY HE GOT CAUGHT.
[001:33:50;939] >> HOW DID YOU SPEND YOUR TIME
[001:33:52;474] THIS PAST YEAR?
[001:33:53;241] >> I WORRIED.
[001:33:55;143] I WORRIED, BUT A FEW MONTHS INTO
[001:33:58;981] IT, MY STEPMOM BARBARA GOT ME
[001:34:04;653] INTO KNITTING AND I STARTED TO
[001:34:06;254] KNIT.
[001:34:07;022] I'VE KNIT QUITE A MANY SCARVES
[001:34:09;424] AND STILL TRYING TO FINISH MY
[001:34:11;627] FIRST SWEATER.
[001:34:12;093] >> SO EVERYBODY YOU KNOW HAS A
[001:34:13;595] SCARF?
[001:34:13;996] >> PRETTY MUCH SO.
[001:34:15;130] PRETTY MUCH SO.
[001:34:15;697] >> SO HERE'S THE COVER OF
[001:34:17;132] "NEWSWEEK."
[001:34:20;035] >> THAT WAS VERY STRANGE FOR ME
[001:34:21;336] TO SEE.
[001:34:21;803] >> MONICA TOLD ME SHE READ AND
[001:34:24;872] FOLLOWED ALMOST EVERYTHING, EVEN
[001:34:25;806] THE MOST DISPARAGING STORIES.
[001:34:29;411] MONICA, THE TABLOIDS WERE
[001:34:30;945] TERRIBLE TO YOU.
[001:34:31;846] ESPECIALLY ABOUT YOUR WEIGHT.
[001:34:33;314] TUBBY TEMPTRESS.
[001:34:35;816] PORTLY --
[001:34:36;217] >> PEPPER POT.
[001:34:37;919] >> DID THE WEIGHT STUFF BOTHER
[001:34:40;621] YOU?
[001:34:40;922] >> OF COURSE.
[001:34:41;389] THAT WAS PAINFUL.
[001:34:43;991] >> HI.
[001:34:44;926] I'M MEETING A FRIEND HERE.
[001:34:45;593] >> YOUR NAME?
[001:34:46;461] >> MONICA LEWINSKY.
[001:34:47;862] >> OH, YES.
[001:34:48;796] >> HOW DID YOU FEEL ABOUT THE
[001:34:50;398] JOKES, ALL THE COMICS TELLING
[001:34:52;333] JOKES?
[001:34:52;667] >> WELL, SOME OF THE JOKES I'VE
[001:34:57;038] LAUGHED AT.
[001:34:57;472] >> THE HUMIDITY.
[001:34:58;272] PEOPLE'S CLOTHES ARE STICKIER
[001:34:59;840] THAN MONICA LEWINSKY'S.
[001:35:02;043] >> SECRETARY SAID SHE KNEW
[001:35:03;544] SOMETHING WAS SORT OF SUSPICIOUS
[001:35:05;046] WHEN SHE FOUND HERSELF USING
[001:35:06;981] PHRASES LIKE, SIR, YOUR 3 A.M.
[001:35:09;383] IS HERE.
[001:35:11;052] >> I HAVE A PRETTY GOOD SENSE OF
[001:35:12;753] HUMOR AND I'VE EVEN BEEN RUMORED
[001:35:14;722] TO TELL A JOKE OR TWO.
[001:35:17;658] >> ANY OF THESE JOKES YOU CAN
[001:35:19;226] SHARE WITH US?
[001:35:19;694] >> NO.
[001:35:21;762] >> NOT TOO CLEAN, HUH?
[001:35:23;631] >> NO, NOT ON THIS TIME SLOT.
[001:35:25;566] >> IF HER TESTIMONY IS TRUTHFUL,
[001:35:27;101] THEN THE PRESIDENT COMMITTED THE
[001:35:29;470] OFFENSES ALLEGED IN THE ARTICLES
[001:35:32;372] OF IMPEACHMENT.
[001:35:33;407] >> THEN CAME THE PRESIDENT'S
[001:35:35;775] IMPEACHMENT TRIAL.
[001:35:36;310] UP UNTIL THAT TIME, PEOPLE HAD
[001:35:37;544] NEVER SEEN MONICA TELL ANY PART
[001:35:40;647] OF HER OWN STORY.
[001:35:41;181] >> YOU MONICA S. LEWINSKY DO
[001:35:43;183] SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE
[001:35:44;284] EVIDENCE --
[001:35:44;718] >> SHE DID.
[001:35:45;219] IN A VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION
[001:35:47;754] PLAYED AT THE SENATE TRIAL.
[001:35:48;855] SOME OF THE HOUSE PROSECUTORS
[001:35:50;524] SAID THAT YOU WERE TRYING TO
[001:35:51;925] PROTECT THE PRESIDENT.
[001:35:53;560] WERE YOU EVEN THEN TRYING TO
[001:35:55;962] PROTECT BILL CLINTON?
[001:35:56;563] >> NO.
[001:35:59;233] I WAS NOT TRYING TO HURT HIM AND
[001:36:02;202] I WAS NOT TRYING TO PROTECT HIM.
[001:36:05;672] >> SO HERE WE ARE.
[001:36:07;508] IT'S ALMOST THE END OF THE
[001:36:09;609] STORY.
[001:36:09;943] THE PRESIDENT IS GOING ON WITH
[001:36:10;844] HIS LIFE.
[001:36:13;146] WHERE DO YOU GO FROM HERE?
[001:36:15;515] >> I DON'T KNOW.
[001:36:18;985] I THINK I HAVE -- I HAVE A LOT
[001:36:22;656] OF HEALING TO DO.
[001:36:23;556] >> ARE YOU STILL ON MEDICATION?
[001:36:24;357] >> YES.
[001:36:26;225] >> AND THIS IS ANTI-DEPRESSION
[001:36:28;327] MEDICATION?
[001:36:28;762] >> YES.
[001:36:31;931] >> DO YOU HAVE ANY GOALS?
[001:36:33;399] IS IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WOULD
[001:36:34;734] LIKE TO DO?
[001:36:38;571] >> I'D LIKE TO MAKE A
[001:36:41;141] CONTRIBUTION TO SOCIETY, A GOOD
[001:36:42;776] CONTRIBUTION THIS TIME, I THINK.
[001:36:47;680] AND I KNOW IT'S CORNY, BUT I'D
[001:36:49;882] REALLY LIKE TO FIND THE RIGHT
[001:36:53;085] PERSON AND HE A MEANINGFUL
[001:36:55;721] RELATIONSHIP AND GET MARRIED AND
[001:36:56;689] HAVE KIDS.
[001:36:59;458] >>NY MAN IN YOUR LIFNOW? ME.
[001:37:04;730] >> NO PRINCE CHARMING YET.
[001:37:06;265] >> YOU AND I MET BEFORE TODAY
[001:37:07;933] WHEN WE WERE -- YOU FIRST AGREED
[001:37:10;636] TO DO AN INTERVIEW WITH ME.
[001:37:11;904] >> YES.
[001:37:12;271] >> WE HAD AN INITIAL MEETING.
[001:37:13;872] YOU SAID TO ME THEN THAT YOU'D
[001:37:15;774] SEEN DR. JOYCE BROTHERS ON
[001:37:17;176] TELEVISION.
[001:37:18;077] AND THAT SHE HAD SAID, CAN YOU
[001:37:19;877] IMAGINE A YOUNG MAN BRINGING
[001:37:21;580] HOME MONICA LEWINSKY TO HIS
[001:37:23;381] PARENTS AND SAYING, I'M GOING TO
[001:37:24;849] MARRY MONICA LEWINSKY?
[001:37:30;222] THAT REALLY BOTHERED YOU.
[001:37:31;389] >> THAT WAS A BAD DAY.
[001:37:33;325] THAT WAS A BAD DAY.
[001:37:40;398] THERE HAVE BEEN SOME NIGHTS
[001:37:44;502] WHERE I HAVE JUST STAYED AWAKE
[001:37:47;772] CRYING, THINKING ABOUT HOW --
[001:37:52;844] HOW AM I EVER GOING TO HAVE ANY
[001:37:54;411] SENSE OF NORMALCY AGAIN IN MY
[001:37:55;980] LIFE?
[001:37:58;616] >> LINDA TRIPP SAYS SHE WOULD
[001:37:59;751] LIKE TO GIVE YOU A HUG.
[001:38:02;920] WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO GIVE
[001:38:03;821] LINDA TRIPP?
[001:38:08;860] >> NOTHING.
[001:38:11;695] >> WHAT DO YOU THINK OF LINDA
[001:38:13;030] TRIPP?
[001:38:17;101] >> I PITY HER.
[001:38:18;736] I WOULD HATE TO BE HER.
[001:38:24;308] SHE IS NOT ME.
[001:38:27;378] >>AVE YOU LEARNED ANYTHING
[001:38:28;344] FROM THIS EXPERIENCE?
[001:38:31;214] >> I'VE LEARNED A LOT.
[001:38:33;083] I'VE LEARNED A LOT.
[001:38:35;685] I HAVE -- I'VE LEARNED HOW
[001:38:40;824] IMPORTANT FAMILY IS AND HOW TO
[001:38:43;459] HONOR THAT AND TO CHERISH THAT.
[001:38:45;561] I HAVE LEARNED THE TRUE MEANING
[001:38:48;731] OF FRIENDSHIP.
[001:38:54;504] I HAVE REALLY -- MY FAMILY AND
[001:38:57;908] FRIENDS HAVE BEEN AMAZING.
[001:39:01;311] >> IF YOU HAD TO DO IT ALL OVER
[001:39:04;079] DPEN, WOULD YOU HAV HAD THE
[001:39:05;647] RELATIONSHIP WITH BILL CLINTON?
[001:39:11;320] >> THERE ARE SOME DAYS THAT I
[001:39:14;924] REGRET THAT THE RELATIONSHIP
[001:39:16;391] EVER STARTED, AND THERE ARE SOME
[001:39:19;094] DAYS THAT I JUST REGRET THAT I
[001:39:20;329] EVER CONFIDED IN LINDA TRIPP.
[001:39:23;332] >> MONICA, ARE YOU STILL IN LOVE
[001:39:26;035] WITH BILL CLINTON?
[001:39:26;568] >> NO.
[001:39:28;838] >> SURE?
[001:39:29;671] >> UH-HUH.
[001:39:30;206] >> OVER?
[001:39:31;540] >> SOMETIMES I HAVE WARM
[001:39:33;075] FEELINGS, SOMETIMES I'M PROUD OF
[001:39:34;543] HIM STILL, AND SOMETIMES I HATE
[001:39:36;111] HIS GUTS.
[001:39:38;112] AND HE MAKES ME SICK.
[001:39:40;549] >> WHAT WILL YOU TELL YOUR
[001:39:41;650] CHILDREN WHEN YOU HAVE THEM?
[001:39:46;154] >> MOMMY MADE A BIG MISTAKE.
[001:39:52;561] >> AND THAT IS THE
[001:39:54;329] UNDERSTATEMENT OF THE YEAR.
[001:39:56;798] FOR ABC NEWS, I'M BARBARA
[001:39:57;699] WALTERS.
[001:39:58;066] GOOD NIGHT.
[001:40:06;274] -- Captions by VITAC --
[001:40:06;274] Burbank, Pittsburgh, Tampa,
[001:40:06;274] and Washington, D.C.
[001:40:27;461] >>> GOOD EVENING.
[001:40:27;996] I'M DAN ASHLEY.
[001:40:29;063] >> AND I'M TERILYN JOE.
[001:40:29;964] >>> EVERYTHING YOU EVER WANTED
[001:40:31;232] TO KNOW ABOUT MONICA
[001:40:32;200] LEWINSKY'S AFFAIR WITH THE
[001:40:33;101] PRESIDENT IS NOW OUT THERE.
[001:40:35;069] IF YOU'VE BEEN WATCHING ABC 7,
[001:40:37;571] YOU JUST SAW A TWO-HOUR
[001:40:39;540] INTERVIEW WITH BARBARA WALTERS
[001:40:40;875] IN WHICH LEWINSKY TALKED ABOUT
[001:40:42;010] THE MOST INTIMATE DETAILS OF
[001:40:43;644] HER RELATIONSHIP WITH THE MOST
[001:40:45;012] POWERFUL MAN IN THE WORLD.
[001:40:47;214] >> DID YOU TRY TO HAVE
[001:40:48;481] INTERCOURSE?
[001:40:48;916] >> UH-HUH.
[001:40:49;917] >> WHAT HAPPENED?
[001:40:50;984] >> I ACTUALLY HAD ALWAYS
[001:40:52;986] THOUGHT WE EVENTUALLY WOULD.
[001:40:54;421] I MEAN, THERE REALLY WAS NEVER
[001:40:56;689] A QUESTION FOR ME AND I
[001:40:57;490] THINK...
[001:40:59;126] MOST NORMAL PEOPLE WOULD THINK,
[001:41:00;827] WELL, SURE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE
[001:41:02;429] AN AFFAIR, YOU'RE GONNA MAKE
[001:41:03;830] LOVE AND IT'S GOING TO BE
[001:41:05;198] GREAT OR YOU HOPE IT'S GREAT.
[001:41:06;766] BUT...
[001:41:09;036] WE -- WHEN WE -- WE FIRST
[001:41:10;237] SPOKE ABOUT, ACTUALLY IT
[001:41:12;605] WAS DURING THE ELECTION, AND
[001:41:14;541] HE SA,'T DO THAT.
[001:41:15;909] AND I SAID, WHAT DO YOU MEAN
[001:41:17;010] YOU CAN'T DO THAT?!
[001:41:18;445] AND HE SAID, WELL, WHEN YO
[001:41:19;646] GET TO BE MY AGE, YOU'LL
[001:41:20;980] UNDERSTAND.
[001:41:21;414] THERE ARE KONLSS FOR THOSE
[001:41:22;581] KINDS OF THINGS.
[001:41:23;715] AND I -- CONSEQUENCES FOR
[001:41:25;284] THOSE KIND OF THINGS AND I GOT
[001:41:26;986] VERY UPSET.
[001:41:28;220] >> LEWINSKY GOT SEE VERY
[001:41:29;588] EMOTIONAL WHEN SHE TALKED
[001:41:30;489] ABOUT THE SCANDAL'S IMPACT ON
[001:41:32;058] HER FAMILY.
[001:41:32;558] >> YOU TOLD FRIENDS AT ONE
[001:41:34;660] TIME OR ANOTHER YOUR MOTHER
[001:41:35;894] AND YOUR FATHER, BECAUSE OF
[001:41:38;230] THINGS THAT WERE REVEALED, THE
[001:41:40;499] MOST PERSONAL THINGS ABOUT
[001:41:41;667] THEM, THAT EACH OF THEM
[001:41:45;037] CONSIDERED...
[001:41:46;405] TAKING THEIR OWN LIVES?
[001:41:48;907] IT WAS THAT BAD?
[001:41:50;142] THEY DID?
[001:41:57;649] >> PEOPLE HAVE NO...
[001:42:02;754] IDEA WHAT THIS HAS DONE.
[001:42:06;458] >> LEWINSKY SAYS SHE IS NO
[001:42:08;126] LONGER IN LOVE WITH BILL
[001:42:09;661] CLINTON.
[001:42:10;028] AND THAT WHILE SHE
[001:42:11;530] OCCASIONALLY HAS WARM FEELINGS
[001:42:12;397] ABOUT HIM, SHE SAYS, QUOTE,
[001:42:14;533] SOMETIMES I HATE HIS GUTS AND
[001:42:16;267] HE MAKES ME SICK.
[001:42:18;537] >>> YOU HAD THE CHANCE TO
[001:42:19;605] JUDGE MONICA LEWINSKY FOR
[001:42:22;140] YOURSELF DURING TONIGHT'S
[001:42:23;408] TWO-HOUR INTERVIEW TO MAKE
[001:42:24;275] JUNTS ABOUT HER SINCERITY AND
[001:42:25;511] HER CHARACTER.
[001:42:27;445] AN EXPERT ON WHAT
[001:42:28;780] MS. LEWINSKY'S BODY LANGUAGE
[001:42:29;881] MAY REVEAL ALSO WATCHED
[001:42:30;882] TONIGHT AND ABC 7'S LARA
[001:42:33;718] MARQUEZ IS IN THE NEWSROOM
[001:42:34;452] WITH THAT STORY.
[001:42:34;952] >> Reporter: DAN, WE SAT DOWN
[001:42:37;855] WITH MAUREEN O'ZIL SULLIVAN.
[001:42:41;292] FOR 20 YEARS SHE'S DONE
[001:42:42;627] RESEARCH ON BODY LANGUAGE AND
[001:42:43;895] NONVERBAL CUES THAT'S THEN
[001:42:45;830] USED TO TRAIN LAW ENFORCEMENT
[001:42:46;564] ON HOW TO CATCH A LIAR.
[001:42:48;166] THE SULLIVAN SAYS THERE'S MORE
[001:42:50;168] TO LEWINSKY THAN MEETS THE EYE
[001:42:51;503] IN THIS INTERVIEW.
[001:42:55;540] MAUREEN STUDIED MONICA
[001:42:56;408] LEWINSKY AS DESCRIBED THE
[001:42:57;509] BEGINNING OF HER AFFAIR WITH
[001:42:58;843] THE PRESIDENT.
[001:42:59;544] >> I BLURTED OUT, YOU KNOW, I
[001:43:02;347] HAVE A CRUSH ON YOU.
[001:43:03;348] [ LAUGHING! ]
[001:43:03;848] AND THAT WAS HIS CUE, I GUESS,
[001:43:06;917] THAT IT WAS OKAY FOR HIM TO
[001:43:08;618] PROCEED IN WHAT HE WANTED AND
[001:43:10;054] WHAT HE WAS FEELING.
[001:43:11;221] >> THERE'S TREMENDOUS CONTRAST
[001:43:13;023] BETWEEN THIS VERY
[001:43:15;492] INNOCENT-APPEARANCEING,
[001:43:16;493] BRIGHT-EYED, DIMPLED YOUNG
[001:43:18;162] GIRL AND WHAT SHE'S TELLING
[001:43:19;496] YOU!
[001:43:19;930] >> Reporter: SHE SAYS LEWINSKY
[001:43:21;532] TAKES ON DIFFERENT MANNERISMS
[001:43:23;033] WHEN SHE'SSING TO
[001:43:24;834] HILLARY AND CHELSEA CLINTON.
[001:43:26;370] >> BUT I COULD ASK THEM TO
[001:43:28;238] KNOW THAT I AM VERY SORRY FOR
[001:43:30;674] WHAT HAPPENED AND FOR WHAT
[001:43:32;042] THEY'VE BEEN THROUGH.
[001:43:32;842] >> Reporter: O'SULLIVAN SAID
[001:43:34;811] LEWINSKY APPEARED TO BE TRYING
[001:43:35;979] VERY HARD TO GET IT RIGHT.
[001:43:37;514] >> THERE WERE A NUMBER OF
[001:43:38;648] TIMES WHEN SHE LOOKED UP OR
[001:43:40;717] LOOKED AWAY AND THAT'S WHAT
[001:43:42;385] PEOPLE DO WHEN THEY'RE
[001:43:43;553] THINKING ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE
[001:43:44;253] GOING TO SAY.
[001:43:44;721] >> Reporter: WHEN WALTERS
[001:43:46;623] BEGAN GRILLING LEWINSKY ON A
[001:43:48;892] RELATIONSHIP SHE HAD WITH
[001:43:49;559] ANOTHER MAN, SHE SAYS
[001:43:52;495] LEWINSKY'S BODY LANGUAGE
[001:43:53;362] SHOWED SHE WAS BECOMING VERY
[001:43:55;431] UNCOMFORTABLE.
[001:43:55;899] >> SEE HOW DIFFERENT SHE WAS?
[001:43:58;568] HER WHOLE BODY CHANGED.
[001:44:00;036] SHE LOOKED AWAY, HER VOICE
[001:44:01;571] CHANGE.
[001:44:01;938] THE PITCH OF HER CHOICE
[001:44:03;039] CHANGED.
[001:44:03;607] SO SHE WAS IN A VERY DIFFERENT
[001:44:05;041] MODE.
[001:44:05;374] >> Reporter:O'SULLIVAN
[001:44:06;676] BELIEVES WE SAW A MORE HONEST
[001:44:09;245] LEWINSKY TOWARDS THE END.
[001:44:10;246] INTERVIEW WHEN SHE STOPPED
[001:44:11;380] DESCRIBING THE RELATIONSHIP IN
[001:44:13;682] SUCH GLOWING TERMS.
[001:44:14;717] >> BEHIND THE NAME LOINGS
[001:44:16;085] MONICA LEWINSKY, THERE'S A
[001:44:17;052] PERSON AND THERE IS A FAMILY.
[001:44:19;622] >> I THINK SHE CAN HAVE A VERY
[001:44:21;389] DECIDED WILL AND I THINK SHE
[001:44:23;492] WAS BEING VERY CHARMING, VERY
[001:44:25;027] SWEET, LOOKING YOU KNOW, THIS
[001:44:27;663] IS MY STORY, THE YOUNG GIRL
[001:44:29;264] CONCERNED FOR HER PARENTS.
[001:44:30;599] I'M SURE THERE IS ANOTHER SIDE
[001:44:32;367] OF MONICA THAT WE JUST GOT
[001:44:34;970] GLIMPSEPS OF IN THIS
[001:44:35;537] INTERVIEW.
[001:44:35;938] >> Reporter: O'SULLIVAN SAYS
[001:44:37;706] LEWINSKY IS A COMPLICATED
[001:44:38;974] YOUNG WOMAN WITH MANY
[001:44:40;876] CONTRADICTIONS.
[001:44:41;476] AS WALTERS POINTS OUT,
[001:44:43;045] LEWINSKY WAS ON STAGE AT A
[001:44:44;713] YOUNG AGE, AND O'SULIVAN
[001:44:48;450] LEAVES TONIGHT LEWINSKY TURNED
[001:44:49;551] IN A GOOD PERFORMANCE DESIGNED
[001:44:52;654] TO CHANGE THE PUBLIC'S
[001:44:53;955] PERCEPTION OF HER.
[001:44:54;656] WE'LL SEE IF SHE SUCCEEDED.
[001:44:56;858] >> THANK YOU.
[001:44:57;559] >>> ACROSS THE BAY TONIGHT,
[001:44:59;294] VIEWERS TUNED IN TO SEE THE
[001:45:00;562] HUMAN FACE BEHIND THE SCANDAL
[001:45:01;530] THAT ROCKED THE WHITE HOUSE.
[001:45:03;064] ABC 7 ICE HEATHER ISHIMARU IS
[001:45:05;933] AT SAN FRANCISCO STATE
[001:45:06;635] UNIVERSITY WHERE STUDENTS WERE
[001:45:08;570] GLUED TO THEIR TV SATURDAYS.
[001:45:10;905] -- SETS.
[001:45:11;540] WHAT'S THE NEWS ON CAMPUS?
[001:45:12;674] >> Reporter: MANY STUDENTS
[001:45:13;941] WATCHED LOOKING FOR ANY EXCUSE
[001:45:15;210] NOT TO DO HOMEWORK BUT MANY OF
[001:45:17;845] THEM WANTED TO WATCH, MANY
[001:45:19;481] YOUNG WOMEN, TO HEAR MONICA
[001:45:22;583] ' -- MONICA'S SIDE OF THE
[001:45:23;250] STORY.
[001:45:23;584] WE WATCHED IN A GROUP OF
[001:45:24;985] FRESHMEN AND SOPHOMORES.
[001:45:26;520] THESE YOUNG WOMEN WATCHED
[001:45:29;122] INTENTLY AS MONICA LEWINSKY
[001:45:30;123] SPOKE OUT FOR THE FIRST TIME.
[001:45:32;926] THEY WANTED TO SEE WHAT SHE'S
[001:45:33;661] REALLY LIKE AND SEE IF HEARING
[001:45:35;062] HER WOULD AFFECT THEIR
[001:45:36;564] FEELINGS ABOUT THE PRESIDENT.
[001:45:37;565] IN SOME CASES IT DID.
[001:45:39;400] >> TOTALLY BEEN ON THE SIDE
[001:45:40;934] THE WHOLE -- JUST KIND OF LIKE,
[001:45:44;104] SUPPORTIVE ANDSH MAKES
[001:45:45;872] MISTAKES AND
[001:45:47;641] THE -- MISTAKE -- AND
[001:45:48;242] EVERYBODY MAKES MISTAKES AND
[001:45:49;276] THIS IS NOT IMPULSE.
[001:45:50;477] THIS WAS AN ONGOING AFFAIR.
[001:45:52;045] I MEAN, THAT'S THE IMPRESSION
[001:45:53;547] I'M GETTING FROM HER.
[001:45:54;781] SO IT REALLY KIND OF -- IT
[001:45:56;749] MAKES ME SAD.
[001:45:57;883] >> IT WAS A BITS SURPRISING
[001:45:59;385] THAT SHE RECEIVED A BOOK THAT
[001:46:02;021] HE GAVE HER, HILLARY CLINTON.
[001:46:03;323] -- IT WAS THE SAME BOOK AND
[001:46:04;490] THAT WAS A BIT SURPRISING.
[001:46:06;559] AND I DON'T KNOW.
[001:46:07;227] THIS IS A GAME HE'S PLAYING?
[001:46:08;861] THAT HE'S DONE THIS BEFORE,
[001:46:09;862] YOU KNOW?
[001:46:10;330] HE KNOWS HOW TO MANIPULATE THE
[001:46:12;532] GIRLS!
[001:46:13;132] >> IT'S HARD TO SAY IF I CAN
[001:46:16;836] BELIEVE EVERYTHING SHE SAYS.
[001:46:19;539] BECAUSE A COUPLE OF US WERE
[001:46:21;307] NOTICING, TOO, IT LOOKS MORE
[001:46:23;509] LIKE SHE'S...
[001:46:24;844] SHE'S READING FROM SOMETHING
[001:46:27;179] SHE HAS WRITTEN TO THE NATION
[001:46:29;582] RATHER THAN WHAT'S REALLY IN
[001:46:32;351] HER HEAD OR WHAT REALLY WENT
[001:46:33;752] ON.
[001:46:34;085] >> Reporter: OF COURSE,
[001:46:35;120] COLLEGE STUDENTS WEREN'T THE
[001:46:36;121] ONLY ONES WATCHING TONIGHT.
[001:46:37;489] HERE'S A LOOK AT WHAT SOME
[001:46:38;857] OTHER PEOPLE IN THE BAY AREA
[001:46:39;824] HAD TO SAY ABOUT TONIGHT'S
[001:46:40;726] INTERVIEW.
[001:46:42;494] >> THIS IS A BIG EVENT, YOU
[001:46:45;163] KNOW, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE'S
[001:46:47;466] LIFETIME SO I THINK EVERYBODY
[001:46:48;367] IS INTERESTED.
[001:46:49;468] >> I DON'T KNOW.
[001:46:52;437] IT'S BUSINESS AND I DON'T
[001:46:53;538] REALLY CARE ABOUT ANY OF IT.
[001:46:54;839] >> I'M A PSYCHOLOGIST AND I
[001:46:56;040] JUST KIND OF WANT TO HEAR FROM
[001:46:57;208] THE HORSE'S MOUTH.
[001:46:58;443] >> I'M TIRED HEARING ABOUT IT.
[001:47:00;879] I WISH THE WHOLE THING WOULD
[001:47:02;547] DISAPPEAR.
[001:47:02;947] >> Reporter: MOU, -- NOW,
[001:47:04;082] MANY.
[001:47:04;583] STOOBLTSS WE TALKED TO SAID
[001:47:05;650] THEY'LL BE DOING -- STUDENT
[001:47:09;052] STUDENTS -- MANY OF THE
[001:47:09;687] STUDENTS WE TALKED TO SAID
[001:47:10;354] THEY'LL BE DOING INTERNSHIPS
[001:47:11;689] AND THEY LOOK AT MONICA'S
[001:47:13;357] STORY AS A CAUTIONARY TALE.
[001:47:15;359] >> HEATHER, THANKS VERY MUCH.
[001:47:16;761] >>> FOR HIS PART, PRESIDENT
[001:47:18;929] CL ON BOARD AIR FORCE
[001:47:20;130] BASE ONE AS THE LEWINSKY
[001:47:21;499] INTERVIEW WAS AIRING ON THE
[001:47:22;733] ST CST.
[001:47:23;534] MR. CLINTON ARRIVED JUST AFTER
[001:47:25;235] 10:00 AT ANDREWS AIR FORCE
[001:47:26;870] BASE AFTER ATTENDING A
[001:47:28;238] FUND-RAISER IN NEW JERSEY.
[001:47:29;106] NO WORD TONIGHT IF HE WATCHED
[001:47:30;541] ANY PART OF THAT INTERVIEW.
[001:47:33;143] >>> MRS. CLINTON SPENT THE
[001:47:34;378] EVENING AT A FUND-RAISER AS
[001:47:36;146] WELL, HERS IN NEW YORK CITY.
[001:47:37;547] NOW, SHE REFUSED TO SPEAK WITH
[001:47:39;183] REPORTERS ON THE WAY IN BUT
[001:47:40;417] HER AIDES HAVE SAID THAT SHE
[001:47:41;551] DID NOT PLANTO WATCH
[001:47:43;020] TONIGHT'S INTERVIEW.
[001:47:44;888] >>> WE HAVE NOW HEARD MONICA
[001:47:46;489] SPEAK BUT SHE'S GOT A LOT MORE
[001:47:47;791] TO SAY.
[001:47:48;425] HER BOOK, MONICA'S STORY,
[001:47:50;760] COMES OUT TOMORROW AND LATER
[001:47:51;594] ON IN THIS NEWSCAST, FIND OUT
[001:47:53;163] IF IT BREAKS ANY NEW GROUND.
[001:47:54;898] >> PLUS, THE BOOK, THE
[001:47:56;766] INTERVIEWS, MONICA LEWINSKY IS
[001:47:57;600] CASHING IN ON HER AFFAIR WITH
[001:47:58;902] THE PRESIDENT.
[001:47:59;602] AND WAIT UNTIL YOU SEE HOW
[001:48:01;371] MUCH SHE STANDS TO MAKE.
[001:48:02;840] THAT IS COMING UP IN ABOUT
[001:48:04;374] EIGHT MINUTES.
[001:48:05;943] >>> BUT FIRST OF ALL, AN
[001:48:10;447] TO READ MORE ABOUT HER
[001:48:11;481] TOMORROW.
[001:48:11;914] THAT'S WHEN MONICA LEWINSKY'S
[001:48:13;516] STORY GOES ON SALE.
[001:48:15;084] THE BOOK WASITSEN BY ANDREW
[001:48:17;053] MORTON, PRINCESS DIANA'S
[001:48:18;722] BIOGRAPHER, WITH LEWINSKY'S
[001:48:19;989] COOPERATION OF COURSE.
[001:48:21;023] IT RETAILS FOR NEARLY 25
[001:48:22;124] DOLLARS.
[001:48:24;260] COPIES WERE SHIPPED OUT TODAY
[001:48:25;562] FROM THE DELAWARE WAREHOUSE OF
[001:48:27;564] INTERNET SELLER, AMAZON.COM.
[001:48:30;199] RNLY REVIEWS SAY THE BOOK GOES
[001:48:31;735] INTO GREATER DETAIL THAN
[001:48:34;270] TONIGHT'S INTERVIEW BUT DOES
[001:48:34;971] NOT BREAK ANY NEW GROUND
[001:48:36;138] PARTICULARLY.
[001:48:36;606] THE BOOK IS JUST ABOUT OUT.
[001:48:38;508] BUT IS ANYBODY GOING TORATED
[001:48:40;009] IT?
[001:48:40;377] ACCORDING TO A NEW GALLUP POLK
[001:48:43;412] NOT TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE.
[001:48:44;646] ONLY 8% OF THOSE SURVEYED SAY
[001:48:46;648] THEY'RE INTERESTED IN READING
[001:48:47;583] THE BOOK WHICH MEANS AN
[001:48:49;185] OVERWHELMING 92% SAY THEY ARE
[001:48:51;187] NOT INTERESTED.
[001:48:52;321] >>> EVEN IF THE BOOK DOESN'T
[001:48:53;455] DO ALL THAT WELL, MONICA
[001:48:54;823] LEWINSKY HAS OTHER VENTURES
[001:48:56;392] THAT WILL HELP HER EARN
[001:48:58;160] MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
[001:48:59;561] IN FACT, THE MARKETING OF
[001:49:01;264] MONICA IS HELPING HER TURN HER
[001:49:02;965] AFFAIR WITH THE PRESIDENT INTO
[001:49:04;566] A FORTUNE.
[001:49:06;269] ABC 7'S CAROLYN TYLER REPORTS
[001:49:08;404] >> Reporter: IT WASN'T THAT
[001:49:09;505] LONG AGO THAT SHE WAS DUCKING
[001:49:10;839] THE CAMERAS, TRYING TO IGNORE
[001:49:12;108] THE PRESS.
[001:49:13;075] NOW THE MARKETING OF MONICA IS
[001:49:14;576] IN FULL SWING.
[001:49:15;844] >> I WAS DISPOINTED.
[001:49:17;079] >> Reporter: SHE RECEIVED NO
[001:49:18;079] MONEY FOR HER TALK WITH
[001:49:19;247] BARBARA WALTERS, BUT IN A
[001:49:21;082] SIMILAR INTERVIEW WITH BRITISH
[001:49:22;617] TV, LEWINSKY WAS PAID MORE
[001:49:24;085] THAN HALF A MILLION DOLLARS!
[001:49:25;853] >> SHEETZ GOT TO MAKE -- HEY,
[001:49:28;489] WHILE THE SUN SHINES AND THE
[001:49:29;757] SUN IS SHINING RIGHT NOW.
[001:49:30;758] >> Reporter: SHE'S MAKING AT
[001:49:32;327] LEAST 600,000 ON THE THAT
[001:49:34;095] BRITISH INTERVIEW.
[001:49:34;930] THE BRITS IN TURN HAVE SOLD
[001:49:37;232] BROADCAST RIGHTS TO MORE THAN
[001:49:38;033] TWO DOZEN COUNTRIES.
[001:49:39;434] EACH PAYING UP TO HALF A
[001:49:40;969] MILLION WITH MONICA GETTING
[001:49:43;138] 70%.
[001:49:44;472] WANT EVEN MORE DETLS OF THE
[001:49:45;873] AFFAIR THAT ROCKED THE WORLD
[001:49:46;741] IS THIS THERE'S MONICA'S STORY,
[001:49:48;944] PRICED AT $24.95 AND WRITTEN
[001:49:52;447] BY THE AUTHOR OF THE
[001:49:53;814] PRINCESS DIANA BIOGRAPHY.
[001:49:55;015] IT HITS BOOKSTORE SHELVES ON
[001:49:57;351] THURSDAY.
[001:49:57;784] IN GREAT BRITAIN ON FRIDAY AND
[001:49:59;519] ON TO OTHER NATIONS.
[001:50:01;021] LEWINSKY PULLS DOWN A 600,000
[001:50:02;823] DOLLARS ADVANCE.
[001:50:03;924] AND 10% OF SALES.
[001:50:05;692] AT A CLEAN WELL-LIGHTED PLACE
[001:50:07;894] FOR BOOKS IN SAN FRANCISCO,
[001:50:09;029] THE OWNER THINKS MONICA'S
[001:50:10;564] STORY WILL SELL WELL.
[001:50:12;099] >> USUALLY THE MORE MEDIA
[001:50:14;234] ATTENTION SOMEBODY GETS, THE
[001:50:16;070] MORE SECURE YOSTY IS.
[001:50:17;071] THE MORE PEOPLE WANT TO SEE
[001:50:18;138] IT.
[001:50:18;439] >> Reporter: MONICA'S MEDIA
[001:50:19;706] BLITZ INCLUDES SEVERAL FOREIGN
[001:50:21;208] NEWSPAPERS AND MAGAZINES THAT
[001:50:22;309] WILL ADD TO HER FAME AND
[001:50:23;710] FORTUNE BUT SHE'S NOT THE ONLY
[001:50:24;845] ONE PROFITING.
[001:50:26;045] ABC WAS CHARGING FIVE TIMES
[001:50:28;147] THE NORMAL RATE FOR
[001:50:29;415] COMMERCIALS ON 20/20 AND
[001:50:31;250] HUNDREDS OF ENTREPRENEURS ARE
[001:50:33;219] FLOODING THE INTERNET, SELLING
[001:50:35;989] CIGARS AND OTHER REMINDERST
[001:50:37;457] SEX SCANDAL.
[001:50:37;957] IN THE N KNACK
[001:50:41;995] COEMORING THE AFFAIR.
[001:50:43;463] HERE ITHE BAY AREAAN
[001:50:44;763] SNAP UP T-SHIRTS LIKE THE ONES
[001:50:46;932] WE PICKED UP IN
[001:50:48;301] SAN FRANCISCO'S CASTRO
[001:50:48;901] NEIGHBORHOOD.
[001:50:49;369] EVEN THE LONG-RUNNING
[001:50:51;137] SAN FRANCISCO INSTITUTION...
[001:50:53;106] UNDERSTANDS THE MASHLGTSING OF
[001:50:54;573] MONICA.
[001:50:55;108] THEY'VE ADDED -- THE MARKETING
[001:50:56;575] OF MONICA.
[001:50:57;410] THEY'VE ADDED A COMEDY SKIT
[001:50:59;212] ABOUT THE SCANDAL
[001:51:00;380] >>.
[001:51:01;080] ♪ I'M HURT, I'M HURT
[001:51:03;615] >> Reporter: RIGHT NOW MONICA
[001:51:04;883] MIGHT BE THE ONE LAUGHING ALL
[001:51:06;151] THE WAY TO THE BANK.
[001:51:07;519] BUT A MEDIA CONSULTANT THINKS
[001:51:11;623] HER NOTARIETY SUP ONCE THE
[001:51:12;724] PRESIDENT IS OUT OF OFFICE.
[001:51:14;292] >> SHE HAS A VERY FINITE PINE
[001:51:17;462] IN WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY.
[001:51:18;130] >> Reporter: AND MONICA IS
[001:51:19;597] CASHING IN WATCH THAT WINDOW
[001:51:21;733] CLOSES.
[001:51:23;201] >>> LEWINSKY REPORTEDLY OWES
[001:51:25;037] MORE THAN 2 MILLION DOLLARS IN
[001:51:26;271] LEGAL FEES, SO WHATEVER SHE
[001:51:28;340] EARNS SHE WILL HAVE TO USE
[001:51:29;207] SOME OF THAT MONEY TO PAY OFF
[001:51:30;608] HER DEBTS.
[001:51:32;010] >>HAM.
[001:51:32;577] >>> SPEAKING OF DEBT, WE OWE
[001:51:38;049] FLIRTATIOUS, MANIPULATIVE, VERY
[001:51:39;517] EXPRESSIVE EYES, DISINGENUOUS,
[001:51:41;285] ALWAYS AN UNDERCURRENT
[001:51:42;953] OF SADNESS.
[001:51:44;388] A LITTLE DIFFERENT, THOUGH,
[001:51:45;722] AS SHE NOTED, FROM THE WAY SHE'S
[001:51:47;124] BEEN PORTRAYED FOR MORE THAN
[001:51:48;359] A YEAR NOW.
[001:51:49;760] WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO TONIGHT,
[001:51:51;095] WITH THAT PORTRAYAL STILL FRESH
[001:51:52;596] IN YOUR MINDS, IS GIVE
[001:51:54;165] YOU A CHANCE TO SUPERIMPOSE IT
[001:51:55;766] OVER THE EVENTS OF THIS PAST
[001:51:57;435] YEAR, AS WE ALL SAW THEM
[001:51:58;769] THE FIRST TIME.
[001:52:00;137] WE'LL DO THAT IN A MOMENT.
[001:52:01;539] BUT FIRST, MY OLD FRIEND,
[001:52:02;706] BARBARA WALTERS.
[001:52:05;543] AND, BARBARA, I MUST SAY, THE
[001:52:07;945] PART OF THE INTERVIEW THAT STUCK
[001:52:09;947] OUT THE MOST WAS WHEN SHE WAS
[001:52:12;416] TALKING ABOUT HOW THE PRESIDENT
[001:52:14;651] HAD TOLD HER WHAT A LIAR HE'S
[001:52:16;386] BEEN ALL OF HIS LIFE, AND I
[001:52:18;956] THOUGHT, WHERE HAVE I HEARD THAT
[001:52:20;523] BEFORE?
[001:52:20;891] >> I ASKED HER, IT WAS NOT ON
[001:52:22;459] THE TAPE.
[001:52:23;460] WE ONLY HAD TWO HOURS.
[001:52:24;995] I SAID, REMEMBER WHEN YOU SAID
[001:52:26;897] THOSE WORDS THAT HAUNTED YOU?
[001:52:28;164] SHE SAID THEM BACK TO ME, YES, I
[001:52:30;467] HAVE BEEN A LIAR ALL MY LIFE.
[001:52:32;135] SHE SAID SHE HAD SAID THEM TO
[001:52:34;404] LINDA TRIPP WHEN LINDA TRIPP WAS
[001:52:36;506] SAYING SHE WAS GOING TO EXPOSE
[001:52:38;742] THE FACT THAT MONICA HAD HAD
[001:52:40;376] THIS RELATIONSHIP WITH THE
[001:52:41;511] PRESIDENT AND SHE COULDN'T LIE
[001:52:42;613] AND MONICA SAID, WHY NOT?
[001:52:44;314] EVERYBODY LIES!
[001:52:45;381] I'VE BEEN A LIAR ALL MY LIFE.
[001:52:47;985] >> IN A SENSE, THOUGH, I GOT THE
[001:52:50;520] FEELING THERE WERE TWO KINDRED
[001:52:53;389] SPIRITS HERE.
[001:52:53;856] BILL CLINTON/MONICA LEWINSKY.
[001:52:56;192] >> STRANGELY ENOUGH, THEY HAD
[001:52:57;627] DIFFERENT THINGS IN COMMON.
[001:52:58;661] I DON'T MEAN DIFFERENT THINGS.
[001:53:00;796] THE SAME THINGS.
[001:53:01;831] BOTH HAD DIFFICULT CHILDHOODS,
[001:53:03;833] BOTH VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR
[001:53:05;901] WEIGHT.
[001:53:06;402] THEY TALKED ABOUT IT TO EACH
[001:53:07;837] OTHER.
[001:53:08;505] WHAT YOU SAW TONIGHT, THEY WERE
[001:53:10;573] EXTREMELY NEEDY.
[001:53:12;475] WE KNOW SHE WAS.
[001:53:14;144] WE UNDERSTAND WHY SHE WANTED TO
[001:53:16;112] HAVE THIS RELATIONSHIP.
[001:53:18;148] BUT WHY WAS HE SO NEEDY?
[001:53:20;183] REMEMBER, HE SAID, I HAVE HAD
[001:53:21;851] ALL OF THESE WOMEN AND THOUGHT
[001:53:22;985] OF GETTING DIVORCED, HE IS ALSO
[001:53:24;853] IN A WAY -- AND THIS IS MAYBE
[001:53:28;557] THE GENTLE SIDE OF IT, TELLING
[001:53:30;359] HER ABOUT HIMSELF TO SAY, I
[001:53:31;793] CAN'T DO THIS ANYMORE.
[001:53:33;362] I HAVE TO STOP.
[001:53:35;230] IN THE EYES OF GOD, THIS IS NO
[001:53:37;199] GOOD.
[001:53:39;468] BUT THE RELATIONSHIP DIDN'T
[001:53:41;002] STOP.
[001:53:41;436] HE WOULD STILL CONTINUE TO REACH
[001:53:43;539] OUT, EVEN IF IT WAS JUST PHONE
[001:53:46;375] CALLS.
[001:53:46;708] >> QUICKLY, IF YOU WOULD,
[001:53:47;976] BARBARA, THIS SENSE OF SADNESS
[001:53:50;045] THAT I FELT ABOUT HER, YOU WERE
[001:53:53;048] TELLING ME IT WAS MUCH MORE THAN
[001:53:55;884] SADNESS?
[001:53:56;485] >> I THINK SHE WAS SUICIDAL.
[001:54:00;087] SHE HAS BEEN ON PROZAC.
[001:54:02;056] STILL IS.
[001:54:02;690] I THINK SHE SAID WHEN HE MOTHER
[001:54:04;725] AND FATHER SAID THEY CONSIDERED
[001:54:06;360] SUICIDE, THIS WAS NOT BEING
[001:54:08;296] DRAMATIC.
[001:54:08;796] THIS WAS SO MUCH PRESSURE, ALL
[001:54:10;631] OF THEIR PRIVATE LIVES, THE BAG
[001:54:12;366] OF A OF BAD DIVORCE CAME OUT.
[001:54:15;936] THESE WERE PEOPLE DESPERATELY
[001:54:17;805] UNHAPPY.
[001:54:18;573] MONICA, WHEN SHE SAYS SHE KNOWS
[001:54:20;107] SHE HAS TO HEAL, SHE DOES.
[001:54:22;410] SHE HAS A LOT OF HEALING TO DO.
[001:54:23;911] THE WORST MAY BE OVER, BUT SHE
[001:54:25;913] REALLY HAS TO FIND OUT WHO SHE
[001:54:27;981] IS AND WHAT SHE IS AND WHERE ON
[001:54:30;017] EARTH SHE WANTS TO GO FROM HERE.
[001:54:32;152] >> BARBARA, IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY
[001:54:34;054] BUT WE'VE GOT A LOT TO LOOK AT
[001:54:35;055] YET.
[001:54:37;457] IN A MOMENT, YOU'VE SEEN IT
[001:54:38;391] ALL BEFORE, BUT YOU'VE NEVER
[001:54:39;492] SEEN IT QUITE LIKE THIS.
[001:54:39;492] BR
[001:54:52;606] THAT IS ACCURATE.
[001:54:53;306] WE ARE DOING OUR BEST TO
[001:54:54;574] COOPERATE.
[001:54:55;109] WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO, CONTAIN
[001:54:56;676] MY NATURAL IMPULSES AND GET BACK
[001:54:58;311] TO WORK.
[001:54:58;678] >> WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY AN
[001:55:00;781] IMPROPER RELATIONSHIP?
[001:55:01;615] >> I'M NOT GOING TO PARSE THE
[001:55:05;352] STATEMENT.
[001:55:05;985] I'M NOT CHARACTERIZING IT
[001:55:09;088] BEYOND -- MY OWN GOOD JUDGMENT
[001:55:10;823] TELLS ME NOT TO PARSE THIS
[001:55:13;626] STATEMENT.
[001:55:14;360] >> YOU AND THE PUBLIC HAVE A
[001:55:16;528] RIGHT TO GET ANSWERS.
[001:55:18;965] >> NOW THE INDEPENDENT COUNSEL
[001:55:22;334] IS DIRECTLY TARGETING --
[001:55:25;604] >> -- I RECOMMENDED A VERY
[001:55:27;974] COMPETENT WASHINGTON LAWYER.
[001:55:30;009] MISS LEWINSKY TOLD ME THAT SHE
[001:55:31;744] DID NOT HAVE A SEXUAL
[001:55:33;079] RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PRESIDENT.
[001:55:36;816] >> IT MAY, AS YOU WILL HEAR
[001:55:39;018] LATER IN THIS PROGRAM,
[001:55:40;718] ULTIMATELY COME DOWN TO THE
[001:55:41;586] QUESTION OF WHETHER ORAL SEX
[001:55:43;188] DOES OR DOES NOT CONSTITUTE
[001:55:45;891] ADULTERY.
[001:55:46;291] >> ACCORDING TO THE SOURCE,
[001:55:48;126] LEWINSKY SAID SHE SAVED,
[001:55:49;560] APPARENTLY AS KIND OF A SOUVENIR
[001:55:51;729] A NAVY BLUE DRESS WITH THE
[001:55:54;065] PRESIDENT'S SEMEN STAIN ON IT.
[001:55:55;100] >> I BELIEVE THAT THE
[001:55:56;301] ALLEGATIONS ARE COMPLETELY
[001:55:57;635] UNTRUE.
[001:55:58;003] >> I'LL SECOND THAT.
[001:55:58;937] >> LATE TODAY WE FOUND IN OUR
[001:56:01;372] TAPEIBRARY VIDEO FROM AN EVENT
[001:56:03;541] AT THE WHITE HOUSE.
[001:56:04;176] >> HOW YA DOING, MONICA?
[001:56:06;611] >> MONICA!
[001:56:09;181] >> SAY SOMETHING, MONICA.
[001:56:10;381] >> MONICA, DID YOU HAVE SEXUAL
[001:56:12;449] RELATIONS WITH THE PRESIDENT?
[001:56:16;720] >> GET YOUR ARMS OFF HER!
[001:56:18;655] >> HEY!
[001:56:20;024] >> LEAVE HER ALONE!
[001:56:21;959] >> GET OUT OF HERE, YOU MORON!
[001:56:25;395] >> THERE'S ONE QUESTION, IS HE
[001:56:27;932] TELLING THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE
[001:56:29;399] TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
[001:56:31;802] IF HE IS, HE CAN SURVIVE, IF NOT
[001:56:34;604] HE CAN'T.
[001:56:35;439] >> IF HE ISN'T TELLING THE TRUTH
[001:56:39;276] HIS PRESIDENCY WILL BE OVER IN
[001:56:41;312] DAYS.
[001:56:41;645] >> I CAN TELL YOU THE PRESIDENT
[001:56:43;347] OF THE UNITED STATES DID NOT
[001:56:44;614] HAVE A SEXUAL RELATIONSHIP
[001:56:46;317] BECAUSE I HAVE HEARD THE
[001:56:47;917] PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
[001:56:48;651] SAY SO.
[001:56:49;953] >> HE'S DENIED IT TO THE NEWS
[001:56:51;687] PEOPLE, TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
[001:56:54;891] AND TO THE NEWS CAST AND HIS
[001:56:57;160] FRIENDS.
[001:56:57;526] >> I DID NOT HAVE SEXUAL
[001:56:58;828] RELATIONS WITH THAT WOMAN.
[001:57:00;563] THESE ALLEGATIONS ARE FALSE.
[001:57:01;731] >> FALSE.
[001:57:02;598] >> FALSE.
[001:57:02;999] >> THE PRESIDENT'S JOB APPROVAL
[001:57:04;868] RATING IS STILL HIGH.
[001:57:05;768] >> THE GREAT STORY HERE IS THIS
[001:57:07;670] VAST RIGHT-WING CONSPIRACY,
[001:57:09;906] CONSPIRING AGAINST MY HUSBAND.
[001:57:10;740] >> IF AN AMERICAN PRESIDENT HAD
[001:57:13;476] AN ADULTEROUS LIAISON IN THE
[001:57:16;079] WHITE HOUSE AND LIED TO COVER IT
[001:57:17;180] UP, SHOULD THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
[001:57:18;714] ASK FOR HIS RESIGNATION?
[001:57:19;983] >> I THINK IF ALL THAT WERE
[001:57:22;050] PROVEN TRUE, I THINK THAT WOULD
[001:57:24;086] BE A VERY SERIOUS OFFENSE.
[001:57:25;921] >> I NODE TO GO BACK TO WORK.
[001:57:28;090] >> DO WHAT I WAS HIRED TO DO.
[001:57:29;692] >> I'LL DO MY JOB.
[001:57:31;226] >> FOCUS ON MY PUBLIC
[001:57:33;128] RESPONSIBILITIES.
[001:57:33;662] >> DO THE WORK FOR THE AMERICAN
[001:57:34;497] PEOPLE.
[001:57:34;864] >> MR. SPEAKER, THE PRESIDENT OF
[001:57:36;298] THE UNITED STATES.
[001:57:37;132] >> OUR LEADERSHIP IN THE WORLD
[001:57:38;401] IS UNRIVALED.
[001:57:41;804] LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE STATE
[001:57:42;772] OF OUR UNION IS STRONG.
[001:57:45;240] >> 79% SAY THEY APPROVE OF MOST
[001:57:47;109] OF IT.
[001:57:48;210] 15% DISAPPROVED.
[001:57:49;144] >> THE POWER OF KENNETH STARR AT
[001:57:51;881] THIS MOMENT IN HISTORY CAN BE
[001:57:53;481] GAUGED BY THE MEDIA MOB THAT NOW
[001:57:58;753] ENVELOPS HIS RARE PUBLIC
[001:58:01;823] APPEARANCES.
[001:58:02;256] >> OUR JOB, GET AT THE TRUTH.
[001:58:03;625] >> WE SHOULD FIND OUT THE FACTS.
[001:58:05;126] >> SEEK THE FACTS.
[001:58:05;894] >> LET'S DEAL WITH THE FACTS.
[001:58:07;094] >> WHAT ARE THE FACTS?
[001:58:09;130] LET'S LET THOSE COME OUT.
[001:58:10;264] >> THIS STARTED OUT AS A $40,000
[001:58:14;502] LAND DEAL THAT LOST MONEY AND
[001:58:16;471] YEARS LATER AFTER NOBODY FOUND
[001:58:18;907] ANYTHING, WE'RE WIRING HOTELS,
[001:58:21;910] FEEDING THEM WHISKEY.
[001:58:23;411] THIS IS A SCUZZ INVESTIGATION.
[001:58:25;046] >> I TRY NOT TO COMMENT.
[001:58:26;047] >> I CAN'T COMMENT.
[001:58:27;181] >> I JUST CAN'T COMMENT.
[001:58:28;649] >> ANYTHING TO REPORT TONIGHT?
[001:58:29;951] >> STINGS AND WIRES AND TRAPS.
[001:58:33;154] >> SQUEEZING, THREATENING,
[001:58:35;256] THAT'S THEIR JOB.
[001:58:35;856] >> OH, YES, MR. STARR'S A LOVELY
[001:58:39;626] GENTLEMAN.
[001:58:40;027] >> I WANT SPACE, I WANT PRIVACY.
[001:58:42;930] I WANT YOU GUYS BACK.
[001:58:44;465] YOU THINK I'M ANNOYED?
[001:58:46;334] I AM.
[001:58:47;268] I WANT SOME GODDAMNED PRIVACY.
[001:58:51;638] WHAT YOU'RE DOING, YOU'RE
[001:58:52;974] PISSING ME OFF.
[001:58:54;175] I'M NOT GOING TO TALK TO ANY OF
[001:58:55;709] YOU ANYMORE!
[001:58:57;078] T GOING TO TALK TO ANY OF
[001:58:58;479] YOU ANYMORE!
[001:58:59;680] >> I AM PERSONALLY NOT AWARE OF
[001:59:02;749] ANY --
[001:59:03;249] >> IMPROPER RELATIONSHIP
[001:59:04;785] BETWEEN --
[001:59:05;318] >> THE PRESIDENT AND MONICA
[001:59:07;988] LEWINSKY.
[001:59:08;622] >> -- OR ANY OTHER WHITE HOUSE
[001:59:10;290] INTERN.
[001:59:10;824] >> 57% OF THE PEOPLE WE POLLED
[001:59:12;693] THIS PRESIDENT CLINTON HAD SOME
[001:59:13;527] SORT OF AFFAIR.
[001:59:14;461] IF IT TURNS OUT THE PRESIDENT
[001:59:15;896] LIED UNDER OATH ABOUT IT, 63%
[001:59:18;231] SAY HE SHOULD RESIGN.
[001:59:19;833] >> YOU CONSIDER RESIGNING FROM
[001:59:21;802] OFFICE?
[001:59:23;470] >> NEVER.
[001:59:25;171] >> ACCORDING TO THE "NEW YORK
[001:59:27;875] TIMES," THE DAY AFTER
[001:59:29;175] MR. CLINTON GAVE TESTIMONY TO
[001:59:30;110] LAWYERS FOR PAULA JONES, HE
[001:59:32;045] ASKED CURRY A SERIES OF LEADING
[001:59:35;315] QUESTIONS, INCLUDING, WE WERE
[001:59:37;150] NEVER ALONE, RIGHT?
[001:59:38;118] >> THESE LEAKS MAKE A MOCKERY OF
[001:59:40;753] THE TRADITIONAL RULES OF GRAND
[001:59:43;056] JURY SECRECY.
[001:59:43;723] >> SOURCES TELL US --
[001:59:45;058] >> SEVERAL SOURCES --
[001:59:46;159] >> A HIGHLY PLACED SOURCE --
[001:59:48;061] >> ABC NEWS HAS LEARNED --
[001:59:50;096] >> CBS NEWS HAS ALSO LEARNED --
[001:59:52;465] >> WE HAVE AN OUT OF CONTROL SEX
[001:59:54;800] CRAZED PERSON THAT IS RUNNING
[001:59:56;669] THE THING.
[001:59:58;505] >> KATHLEEN WILLEY, A LONGTIME
[002:00:00;873] SUPPORTER, ALLEGING A CRUDE
[002:00:02;409] SEXUAL ADVANCE FOUR YEARS AGO.
[002:00:03;709] >> HE TOUCHED MY BREAST WITH HIS
[002:00:07;447] HAND.
[002:00:08;214] >> I AM MYSTIFIED AND
[002:00:10;583] DISAPPOINTED BY THIS TURN OF
[002:00:12;184] EVENTS.
[002:00:12;552] >> PRESIDENT CLINTON CELEBRATED
[002:00:14;620] ST. PATRICK'S DAY AS IF HE
[002:00:16;321] DIDN'T HAVE A CARE IN THE WORLD.
[002:00:17;623] THE PRESIDENT'S JOB APPROVAL
[002:00:19;058] RATING REMAINS AT A HIGH 63%,
[002:00:22;127] UNSHAKEN BY THE WILLEY
[002:00:23;295] APPEARANCE.
[002:00:23;729] >> WE'RE BACK ONCE AGAIN WITH
[002:00:25;364] BARBARA WALTERS AND ARE JOINED
[002:00:27;299] BY "NEW YORKER" COLUMNIST JOE
[002:00:30;169] KLEIN, PERHAPS BETTER KNOWN AS
[002:00:31;303] ANONYMOUS, THE AUTHOR OF THE
[002:00:33;338] BEST-SELLING BOOK "PRIMARY
[002:00:34;440] COLORS."
[002:00:35;608] WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THIS?
[002:00:37;009] WE'RE UP TO MARCH OF LAST YEAR
[002:00:38;243] AS WE GO THROUGH THAT.
[002:00:39;478] >> I FIND IT'S A PERIOD OF MY
[002:00:41;647] LIFE AND OUR LIVES I'M NOT YET
[002:00:45;685] NOSTALGIC FOR.
[002:00:46;552] A CULMINATION OF PATTERNS WE SAW
[002:00:48;320] IN BILL CLINTON FOR MANY YEARS
[002:00:50;021] ALSO PATTERNS WE SAW IN
[002:00:51;590] OURSELVES AND THE MEDIA AND THE
[002:00:52;857] COUNTRY, 20 YEARS WORTH OF
[002:00:55;860] WITCH-HUNTS BUILDING UP TO THESE
[002:00:57;896] EVENTS.
[002:00:58;263] AT THE TIME I THINK I WROTE IN
[002:00:59;864] "THE NEW YORKER," THIS WOULD BE
[002:01:01;300] REMEMBERED AS A PERIOD MORE FOR
[002:01:04;002] THE FEROCITY OF ITS PROSECUTIONS
[002:01:06;572] THAN THE SEVERITY OF ITS CRIMES.
[002:01:09;040] >> BARBARA, AS I LOOK AT THAT,
[002:01:11;543] I'M TAKEN BY THE FACT THAT A LOT
[002:01:13;479] OF INFORMATION WAS ALREADY KNOWN
[002:01:14;846] BACK IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY AND
[002:01:17;216] CERTAINLY BY MARCH, AND ON THE
[002:01:18;683] OTHER HAND, WE WERE SO WRONG
[002:01:20;285] ABOUT OTHER THINGS, ABOUT HOW
[002:01:22;654] QUICKLY THIS WOULD BE OVER, FOR
[002:01:23;855] EXAMPLE, HOW FINISHED THE
[002:01:24;923] PRESIDENT WOULD BE IF THIS
[002:01:26;390] TURNED OUT TO BE TRUE.
[002:01:27;458] >> LET ME TELL YOU FAST NOTES I
[002:01:29;127] MADE AS I WAS WCHING.
[002:01:30;828] FIRST OF ALL, WHAT DOES THE
[002:01:32;230] PRESIDENT THINK AS HE LIES?
[002:01:34;098] WHAT IS HE GOING TO SAY
[002:01:35;566] TOMORROW?
[002:01:36;033] OF COURSE, HE'S GOING TO SAY HE
[002:01:37;668] HASN'T SEEN IT, GOING TO GO ON
[002:01:39;237] AS USUAL.
[002:01:40;338] WHAT DOES HE THINK AS HE
[002:01:42;206] DELIBERATELY LIES TO PEOPLE?
[002:01:43;141] REMEMBER, HAD THIS BEGAN,
[002:01:44;908] NEITHER HE NOR MONICA KNEW IT
[002:01:47;445] WAS ON THE LINDA TRIPP TAPES,
[002:01:49;247] NEITHER HE NOR MONICA, ALTHOUGH
[002:01:51;982] MONICA KNEW, HAD NOT REALLY
[002:01:53;917] EXPOSED THE DRESS, AND FINALLY,
[002:01:55;886] YOU GET THE FEELING OF THIS
[002:01:58;322] HIDEOUS YEAR FOR MONICA WHO IS
[002:02:00;223] ONLY 25 TODAY, WHEN YOU SEE
[002:02:01;925] THOSE CROWDS AND THOSE PEOPLE.
[002:02:04;194] BUT MOSTLY WHAT I'M CURIOUS
[002:02:05;395] ABOUT IS --
[002:02:06;596] WHAT DOES HE SAY TO HIMSELF AS
[002:02:09;833] HE LYING?
[002:02:10;333] >> I DOUBT WE'LL KNOW THE ANSWER
[002:02:11;935] TO THAT.
[002:02:12;602] WHEN WE COME BACK, WE'LL FOCUS
[002:02:14;404] ON THAT BLUE DRESS AND A
[002:02:15;539] CONFESSION.
[002:02:20;878] >>> BY APRIL OF LAST YEAR, THE
[002:02:22;913] PRESIDENT HAD NOT ONLY SURVIVED
[002:02:24;648] THE INITIAL EXPLOSION OF THE
[002:02:26;249] LEWINSKY STORY, HE GOT SOME
[002:02:28;018] REALLY GOOD NEWS WHEN THE JUDGE
[002:02:29;153] IN THE PAULA JONES MATTER
[002:02:31;188] DISMISSED THE CASE.
[002:02:32;723] >> IT IS CLEARLY THE RIGHT
[002:02:35;091] DECISION.
[002:02:35;492] >> I WAS SHOCKED, BECAUSE I
[002:02:37;227] BELIEVED THAT WHAT MR. CLINTON
[002:02:38;895] DID TO ME WAS WRONG.
[002:02:39;929] >> DOES THE DISMISSAL OF THE
[002:02:42;465] JONES CASE ESSENTIALLY UNDERMINE
[002:02:45;168] WHATEVER CHARGES KENNETH STARR
[002:02:46;469] MIGHT BE DEVELOPING AGAINST THE
[002:02:47;837] PRESIDENT?
[002:02:48;238] >> THE PRESIDENT DID HOLD HIS
[002:02:49;872] FIRST FORM'S NEWS CONFERENCE OF
[002:02:51;174] THE YEAR.
[002:02:51;641] >> STAND BY YOUR PREVIOUS
[002:02:53;543] DENIALS OF ANY RELATIONSHIP WITH
[002:02:54;811] HER?
[002:02:55;111] >> I HAVE ANSWERED IT REPEATEDLY
[002:02:57;280] AND HAVE NOTHING TO ADD TO MY
[002:02:59;216] FORMER ANSWER.
[002:02:59;916] I BELIEVE IT'S IMPORTANT FOR
[002:03:01;418] JUST LIKE YOU.
[002:03:02;519] AN AVERAGE AMERICAN.
[002:03:03;520] I NEVER, EVER, ASKED TO BE
[002:03:05;488] PLACED IN THIS POSITION.
[002:03:06;856] >> THANK YOU.
[002:03:08;224] >> I AM LOOKING FORWARD TOAB THE
[002:03:10;159] OPPORTUNITY IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS
[002:03:11;393] OF TESTIFYING.
[002:03:12;795] I WILL DO SO COMPLETELY AND